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    Default Re: Weak teams win East & Lebron sucks in West without AD, so when did Lebron carry t

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayGoat View Post
    Thread cliffs:: MJ faced weak competition

    Lebron had the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to Finals underdog or loser every year, so the "comp" argument is a weaponization of losing and having weaker teams than expected..

    It's just more fraud from a guy that manufactured his resume by forming super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning.

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    Default Re: Weak teams win East & Lebron sucks in West without AD, so when did Lebron carry t

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    You're bragging about the veteran prime Cavaliers beating the victor Oladipo pacers and rookie Tatum Celtics. A team with a prime LeBron James and All Star Kevin Love beating teenagers.

    Its just... unfathomable that you think stats matter in this context when that same team... when they faced one real opponent... got the doors blown off them.

    Mark Twain I think said it best. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
    They always ignore this lol

    We point out the weak competition they faced in the road to the finals, and then the sweeps, 5 game losses and the biggest blow out losses literally in NBA history - once they get there.

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    Default Re: Weak teams win East & Lebron sucks in West without AD, so when did Lebron carry t

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Is the best example when Mo's spacing effect added 21 wins to Lebron's 45-win loser?.. Is that the best example?

    Otherwise, when did he successfully carry teams (bed-wetting teammates) over meaningful opposition in a series? (top 5 SRS opponent or Finals opponent)
    Good post!

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    Default Re: Weak teams win East & Lebron sucks in West without AD, so when did Lebron carry t

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    Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 Playoff Run vs. Lebron's 2007


    Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
    Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


    1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
    1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

    2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG) [/I]
    2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

    Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
    Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)


    In 2007, Lebron's 2 seed was swept 4-0 by the champs while he averaged 22/7/6 on 36%

    In 1989, Jordan's 6 seed went 6 games with the champs, while he averaged 30/7/6 on 47%

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