Weak teams win East & Lebron sucks in West without AD, so when did Lebron carry teams

[3ba11]

James playing in his 8th consecutive Finals.

The East didn't require a good team to win it, yet Lebron had a veteran, 2-star champion team

You forget that Lebron couldn't win the East with home court advantage in 09' and 10' - so he formed super-teams to guarantee Finals trips in a conference that Dwight, Iverson and Kidd were winning by themselves.. Only after stacking the deck, did he begin his "Finals steak" (fraud)

[Hey Yo]

The East didn't require a good team to win it, yet Lebron had a veteran, 2-star champion team

You forget that Lebron couldn't win the East with home court advantage in 09' and 10' - so he formed super-teams to guarantee Finals trips in a conference that Dwight, Iverson and Kidd were winning by themselves.

That 2018 roster never won a title together.... more lies from you.

MJ had to quit after 3 consecutive Finals runs and only 7 consecutive seasons due to mental softness.

[tpols]

James playing in his 8th consecutive Finals. You cried about Curry fatigue even though he was 2nd option in 17,18, an 19.

Love missed games 6-7 of the 18 ECF.

Claiming a 15yr player, with that many miles, is still considered to be in his prime is quite dumb.

Wait... so you brag about 2018 being a GOAT statistical run... yet he wasn't in his prime. What?

Beating Oladipo, rookie tatum, and derozan is clown competition when you look at basketball history. You can't use numbers from that.

[PP34Deuce]

Melt down like a turkey melt. Eastern conference has some of the unhealthiest but tasty food! West a lil healthier. I prefer north carolina and Memphis food

[3ba11]

That 2018 roster never won a title together.... more lies from you.

MJ had to quit after 3 consecutive Finals runs and only 7 consecutive seasons due to mental softness.

Love was the best 2nd option in the conference and that Cavs team had been to 3 straight Finals

So they had a veteran, 2-star team that beat a bunch of 0-star teams.. Lebron's "decision" in 2011 set up this unfair, top-heavy conference.

Heck, the 89' Cavs were #1 SRS and better than any team Lebron beat in the East, and Jordan beat them with a low seeded, lottery cast of bums

[Hey Yo]

Wait... so you brag about 2018 being a GOAT statistical run... yet he wasn't in his prime. What?

Beating Oladipo, rookie tatum, and derozan is clown competition when you look at basketball history. You can't use numbers from that.

I didn't bring up any statistical run. What other player was considered in their prime after completing their 15th consecutive season?

Look at his stats this year. Is he still in his prime in his 19th season at 37yrs old?

[Hey Yo]

Love was the best 2nd option in the conference and that Cavs team had been to 3 straight Finals

So they had a veteran, 2-star team that beat a bunch of 0-star teams.. Lebron's "decision" in 2011 set up this unfair, top-heavy conference.

Heck, the 89' Cavs were #1 SRS and better than any team Lebron beat in the East, and Jordan beat them with a low seeded, lottery cast of bums

No.... that Cavs team hadn't. Why keep lying?

James made 8 consecutive Finals while MJ couldn't play more than 7 consecutive seasons without needing to load manage to rest up.

[3ba11]

No.... that Cavs team hadn't. Why keep lying?

James made 8 consecutive Finals while MJ couldn't play more than 7 consecutive seasons without needing to load manage to rest up.

The Cavs made the Finals from 15-17', so many of the players on the 18' team were Finals veterans and defending conference champs

No other team in the East had this caliber or even a 2nd star like Love

Ultimately, Lebron couldn't win the East with home court advantage in 09' and 10', so he formed super-teams to guarantee Finals trips even though Iverson, Kidd and Dwight won the conference by themselves... So Lebron's resume was nothing before the "decision" to stack the deck

[Johnny32]

speaking of 2018 has jordone ever won a series to make the finals where 4 of the 5 best players were on the opposing team like legoat did in the 18 ecf? i'm going to guess that's a negative.

[SouBeachTalents]

Love was the best 2nd option in the conference and that Cavs team had been to 3 straight Finals

So they had a veteran, 2-star team that beat a bunch of 0-star teams.. Lebron's "decision" in 2011 set up this unfair, top-heavy conference.

Heck, the 89' Cavs were #1 SRS and better than any team Lebron beat in the East, and Jordan beat them with a low seeded, lottery cast of bums

This is seriously not even CLOSE to being true

Better question is, was he even top 5. Are you really taking Kevin Love over

Middleton
Beal
Lowry
Horford
Simmons

[Johnny32]

speaking of 2018 has jordone ever won a series to make the finals where 4 of the 5 best players were on the opposing team like legoat did in the 18 ecf? i'm going to guess that's a negative.

i just checked and the answer as expected is no.

91 - pippen was the second best player in the ecf
92 - pippen was the second best player in the ecf
93 - pippen was the third best player in the ecf
96 - pippen was the fourth best player in the ecf
97 - pippen was the second best player in the ecf
98 - pippen was the second best player in the ecf

[3ba11]

This is seriously not even CLOSE to being true

Better question is, was he even top 5. Are you really taking Kevin Love over

Middleton
Beal
Lowry
Horford
Simmons

In 2018, Love was considered easily better than Middleton and all those guys.. The numbers and accolades bear this out

It's simply NOTHING to have a carry-job against a bunch of 0-star teams and non-top 5 SRS teams.. Who hasn't done that?.. Lebron simply benefitted by forming super-teams in a 0-star or 1-star team conference

[SouBeachTalents]

In 2018, Love was considered easily better than Middleton and all those guys.. The numbers and accolades bear this out

It's simply NOTHING to have a carry-job against a bunch of 0-star teams and non-top 5 SRS teams? Who hasn't done that?

In what capacity was he considered easily better? Most of those guys made the all-star game just like Love did, in addition to having comparable/superior numbers.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'd bet most, if not all 5 of those guys had both better production and better advanced metrics than Love, or were at least comparable.

And guess what, if being considered better means anything, Pippen was considered one of the greatest players of his era making All-NBA 7x.

[3ba11]

In what capacity was he considered easily better? Most of those guys made the all-star game just like Love did, in addition to having comparable/superior numbers.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'd bet those most, if not all 5 of those guys had both better production and better advanced metrics than Love, or it was at least close.

And guess what, if being considered better means anything, Pippen was considered one of the greatest players of his era making All-NBA 7x.

Middleton hadn't even been an all-star yet in 2018, while 18' Love alsohad higher PER than Middleton has EVER had, and 2nd highest WS/48

So Love was a veteran champion and sure-fire HOF'er in 2018 with superior stats, while Middleton and everyone else were actually bums by comparison.. Giannis still needed 4 more years before he figured out how to win with Middleton.

Again, it's simply NOTHING to have a carry-job against a bunch of 0-star teams and non-top 5 SRS teams.. Who hasn't done that?.. Lebron simply benefitted by forming super-teams in a 0-star or 1-star team conference

[GrayGoat]

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