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    Default 2022 off-season - a big one!

    COTM, Mitchell and Gobert? Where do they go from here?

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Tony Jones is saying they're (ownership/management) are fully behind Mitchell and if anyone is getting traded it'll be Gobert given his age and contract. Said at least 1 starter is getting moved on.

    I know they've said the Mavs want Gobert, but you're probably having to take Hardaway Jr and Bertans in a deal to make that work and Bertans hasn't been a good player since he got his de and he's still got 3 more years left on it.

    Toronto and GS are supposedly interested too, Toronto might get you Siakim if you're super lucky, GS, not sure why they'd want him, but you'd have to take Wiggins and maybe ask for Wiseman too?

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    Charlotte and Atlanta could be destinations for Gobert too, Charlotte would have to send us Hayward back as I can't see us wanting Dozier and maybe with someone like PJ Washington in there too, Atlanta maybe you can do Gobert for Capella and Bogdanovic which still gives you a good defensive C and another shooter to put with Mitchell and run things basically the same again.

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    John Hollinger posted his Rudy trades, had similar ideas to me

    Charlotte

    Gobert and Rudy Gay for Hayward/PJ Washington/#13, #15, 2027 1st rounder and 2029 1st rounder.



    Atlanta

    Gobert and Bogdanovic for Capela, Collins, Bogdanovic, Johnson, Pick #16



    Toronto

    Gobert for OG Anunoby, Birch and a S&T Thad Young/Chris Boucher, 2023 1st rounder and another future 1st rounder



    OR



    Gobert for Siakim



    New York

    Gobert for Fournier, Reddish, Noel, Pick #11, 2023 1st rounder and Dallas 2023 1st rounder. Could also include Mitchell Robinson as a S&T



    Memphis

    Gobert for De'Anthony Melton, Xavier Tillman, John Konchar, Ziaire Williams, Pick #22 and #29.

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Tony Jones is saying they're (ownership/management) are fully behind Mitchell and if anyone is getting traded it'll be Gobert given his age and contract. Said at least 1 starter is getting moved on.

    I know they've said the Mavs want Gobert, but you're probably having to take Hardaway Jr and Bertans in a deal to make that work and Bertans hasn't been a good player since he got his de and he's still got 3 more years left on it.

    Toronto and GS are supposedly interested too, Toronto might get you Siakim if you're super lucky, GS, not sure why they'd want him, but you'd have to take Wiggins and maybe ask for Wiseman too?
    Snyder safe too! No doubt they'll go with Mitchell unless he asks out. 1 starter would be Conley. He won't be easy to move. Royce is close to Mitchell. Lots of teams will be interested in Gobert. Most of them should be. Need expiring contracts, young guys, picks and assets. It's a tank if Gobert is traded. They will be awful

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Charlotte and Atlanta could be destinations for Gobert too, Charlotte would have to send us Hayward back as I can't see us wanting Dozier and maybe with someone like PJ Washington in there too, Atlanta maybe you can do Gobert for Capella and Bogdanovic which still gives you a good defensive C and another shooter to put with Mitchell and run things basically the same again.
    don't need vets unless they are expiring. They aren't winning with Mitchell. Hayward having to come back would be funny though

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    John Hollinger posted his Rudy trades, had similar ideas to me

    Charlotte

    Gobert and Rudy Gay for Hayward/PJ Washington/#13, #15, 2027 1st rounder and 2029 1st rounder.



    Atlanta

    Gobert and Bogdanovic for Capela, Collins, Bogdanovic, Johnson, Pick #16



    Toronto

    Gobert for OG Anunoby, Birch and a S&T Thad Young/Chris Boucher, 2023 1st rounder and another future 1st rounder



    OR



    Gobert for Siakim



    New York

    Gobert for Fournier, Reddish, Noel, Pick #11, 2023 1st rounder and Dallas 2023 1st rounder. Could also include Mitchell Robinson as a S&T



    Memphis

    Gobert for De'Anthony Melton, Xavier Tillman, John Konchar, Ziaire Williams, Pick #22 and #29.
    Looks like Memphis would have a big trade exception to. I like that one that best. Don't take on big contracts. Have to trade Bojan, Gay, Conley, Clarkson etc. if he goes. It's a tank. Lose as much as possible and hope they get someone that can carry them again. Mitchell isn't that guy

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    I’ve heard the Jazz like De’Andre Hunter’s game, and he’s, theoretically, what they need more of moving forward if Mitchell is whom they decide to build around. Utah needs more perimeter defense, maybe worse than Atlanta, if you can actually imagine that after what we watched this season.

    – via Chris Kirschner @ The Athletic

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Jim Owczarski: #Bucks guard Wesley Matthews hopes he’s back – but he’s definitely not hanging them up after his 14th NBA season. He hopes he won’t have to wait until December to sign with a team.
    – via Twitter JimOwczarski

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    https://kslsports.com/486294/ainge-i...z-restructure/

    the fact that COTM still has a job makes me wonder about Ainge, Smith and Zanik

    Mitchell is the younger, cheaper option, and has yet to enter his prime, but few around the NBA believe the guard will sign another contract with the Jazz when his current deal expires in 2025.
    but the way he ended the year after the all star break is very worrisome. What the **** was that? From the best ball of your career to the worst. This should be the only thing being talked about. Seems like his bff Royce was right there with him too

    Or, should Ainge retool the team using faces around the Jazz’s two centerpieces? Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jordan Clarkson, Royce O’Neale, and Rudy Gay should all carry some value as trade assets, but is it enough to push the roster into contender status?
    Gay has value if you throw in assets to get rid of him sure. Royce and Conley might not have much either

    Can the Jazz coach and CEO find that same cohesion in Utah that Udoka and Stevens found in Boston, or will Snyder opt few a new opportunity elsewhere this summer?
    Can only hope COTM does their work for them. Get compensation too!

    He’s also responsible for drafting Defensive Player of the Year Marcus Smart, breakout big men Robert and Grant Williams, and second-year guard Payton Pritchard, who like Brown, was considered a reach on draft night.
    while Dante went to the Jazz before Smart and Randle

    That isn’t to say Ainge didn’t have his share of misses, either. Guerschon Yabusele (16) and Ante Zizic (23) were both first-round busts in 2016, as was Romeo Langford (14) in 2019.
    everyone has misses. How much you hitting is what matters and he has a lot. Jazz have had way too many misses while hitting big with Gobert and Mitchell. Imagine if Gobert had spent his early prime alongside Millsap? Demarre? Smart? McCollum(instead of Burke)...Hayward might have stayed and not got hurt?

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    Shams Charania: Oklahoma City Thunder center Derrick Favors has opted into his $10.2 million player option for the 2022-23 season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

    – via Twitter ShamsCharania

    shocking! I probably said he would opt in when he signed that ridiculous contract

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    Default Re: 2022 off-season - a big one!

    what would the Jazz have looked like with him instead of Bojan?

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