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Local High School Star
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
LeBron Stan's yo
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National High School Star
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by Manny98
He's not tier below Rondo,Lillard and Tony Parker
Parker's made 17 playoff appearances...Kyrie has 6, Dame's numbers are better than Kyries, and Rondo's post season performances go up and down...while Kyrie has clearly declined.
If Kyrie quits and we are only judging him by his resume right now...he's not in the top twenty.
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Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by Manny98
He's not tier below Rondo,Lillard and Tony Parker
It’s more Parker, Lillard and Rondo are absolutely not tier 2 PG’s all-time, what in the actual **** has he seen to believe that?
But that is his actual level. Those are good names.
Pre-ACL injury Rondo is better than Kyrie in the playoffs though. For being the exact opposite player. Smart passer and defender, bad but selective scorer. Some bizzarro Jason Kidd kind of shit.
Last edited by 999Guy; 05-01-2022 at 09:58 AM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by John8204
Parker's made 17 playoff appearances...Kyrie has 6, Dame's numbers are better than Kyries, and Rondo's post season performances go up and down...while Kyrie has clearly declined.
If Kyrie quits and we are only judging him by his resume right now...he's not in the top twenty.
Kyrie would also make the playoffs 17 times if he got to play with Tim Duncan his entire career
Kyrie is better than Parker and Rondo and slightly better than Lillard
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Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by 8Ball
You said you are top 1% in intellect but this qualifies as bottom 1% in stupidity.
and yet you can't argue any of it
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by John_Connor
and yet you can't argue any of it
You thought the Will Smith slap was fake. Nuff said.
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National High School Star
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by Manny98
Kyrie would also make the playoffs 17 times if he got to play with Tim Duncan his entire career
Kyrie is better than Parker and Rondo and slightly better than Lillard
You think Kyrie is going to make 17 seasons? Because he could very well be out of the league by 33, and Kyrie has had Lebron, Durant, Harden, Tatum, and Simmons, he's the PG it's his job to make the system work. What happens if the Celtics win and two teams you quit on ended up being champions. Because that is his legacy right now
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Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
For a variety of reasons he misses too many games. And some of those reasons are completely his fault. I actually would not be that mad at him for refusing to vaccinate but when he missed two weeks for his sister's birthday and didn't tell Nash what he was doing? That was ridiculous and should absolutely be held against him. Without doing the research I'm tempted to say he's missed half or over half of his team's playoff games over the last 5 seasons. That's injury and not his fault but it's a definite trend. Some also hate his defense...it isn't good overall but he can turn it on when he wants to and for a superstar shooter that's generally good enough. Phenomenal offensive player but unreliable. If I was running the Nets I would not give him a long term contract but if not the Nets someone will. And with Durant's influence behind him the Nets will most likely give him whatever he wants.
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by John_Connor
and yet you can't argue any of it
I dont refute flat earth level comments. I let it float around.
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Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
i definitely thought he was better than the shit he produced this playoffs
not sure anymore
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
For a variety of reasons he misses too many games. And some of those reasons are completely his fault. I actually would not be that mad at him for refusing to vaccinate but when he missed two weeks for his sister's birthday and didn't tell Nash what he was doing? That was ridiculous and should absolutely be held against him. Without doing the research I'm tempted to say he's missed half or over half of his team's playoff games over the last 5 seasons. That's injury and not his fault but it's a definite trend. Some also hate his defense...it isn't good overall but he can turn it on when he wants to and for a superstar shooter that's generally good enough. Phenomenal offensive player but unreliable. If I was running the Nets I would not give him a long term contract but if not the Nets someone will. And with Durant's influence behind him the Nets will most likely give him whatever he wants.
Durant signed a long term extension until 2026. Durant doesn't have the leverage anymore to make demands. He will demand a trade?
I don't see Tsai backing up the truck and giving this guy a max after what Kyrie did during Covid.
I would offer Kyrie a 2 year deal only. 2 years 60M.
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National High School Star
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
i definitely thought he was better than the shit he produced this playoffs
not sure anymore
Durant was far worse?
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Nope. The media and the fans have been consistently shitting on him since he left Cleveland. He's been a very efficient offensive player his entire career. His play hasn't suffered at all, it's the injuries & the off court stuff that are an issue with him. There's no doubt that he's one of the most gifted offensive players in league history.
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Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
His talent is not overrated. But his team play is.
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National High School Star
Re: Is it just me or is Kyrie Irving overrated?
Originally Posted by jayfan
His talent is not overrated. But his team play is.
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Agree. But also, he has clearly at various point become totally mentally disengaged. He needs therapy. Was obvious in the 2019 playoffs vs Bucks. And then look at the engagement level after a supreme game 1 in this years playoffs. His hunger for basketball seems to come and go now a days.
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