Who is the greatest 22 year old of all time?

[TheGoatest]

Luka ATM is 22 and he's making his case but who's his comp? MJ in a losing effort was putting up historic numbers against one of the goat teams of all time. Kareem was putting up ridiculous numbers that probably never get touched again. Bron was putting up nice numbers while taking a mediocre team to the finals. And of course magic at the age of 22 was busy winning his second ring. Probably missed a player or 2 but who u got? I gotta go with magic personally but depending on what Luka does that could change.

Doncic, Luka - Age: 23-079d

jordon extremist alts digging up them "alternative facts" again.

LeGOATest James was age 22-154d when he led his team to the finals with someone named Daniel Gibson as his #2 scorer.

And even though this 23 year-old Luka has been playing well, the fact is that he's playing on a team that is 2-1 without him these playoffs. Had LeBron played on a team that would win 2 out of 3 playoff games without him, he would be capable of beating any team in NBA history.

[GimmeThat]

the guy whose salary is being deferred until a later date by the entire world

[PeroAntic]

Better player: 2001 Kobe or 2011 Rose? Not talking about MVPs, just who was the better on-court performer?

Thats a good one. I'd go with Rose. He carried an offensively challenged Bulls team to 60 wins. 25 points and 8 assists as a small guy being the focal point of the team. Kobe had 28/5 during the season where Shaq was in his most dominant prime and commanding the most attention. 2011 Rose with 2001 Shaq would have also easily been a title all else held constant.

[Baller789]

Doncic, Luka - Age: 23-079d

jordon extremist alts digging up them "alternative facts" again.

LeGOATest James was age 22-154d when he led his team to the finals with someone named Daniel Gibson as his #2 scorer.

And even though this 23 year-old Luka has been playing well, the fact is that he's playing on a team that is 2-1 without him these playoffs. Had LeBron played on a team that would win 2 out of 3 playoff games without him, he would be capable of beating any team in NBA history.

Who did Lebron beat to get to the Finals again?
Vs who Luka is going thru?

[rmt]

What if Luka wins a title and fmvp?

Well then, he'd be behind Magic and Duncan (as a 23 year old), wouldn't he?

Magic at 23: 2 rings, 2 FMVP, all nba 1st team, all nba 2nd team, 2x steals leader, assist leader - 19 year old rookie (Aug birthday)
Duncan at 23: ring, FMVP, 2x all nba 1st team, all defensive 1st team, all defensive 2nd team - 4 years in college (Apr birthday)

[GimmeThat]

Well then, he'd be behind Magic and Duncan (as a 23 year old), wouldn't he?

Magic at 23: 2 rings, 2 FMVP, all nba 1st team, all nba 2nd team, 2x steals leader, assist leader - 19 year old rookie (Aug birthday)
Duncan at 23: ring, FMVP, 2x all nba 1st team, all defensive 1st team, all defensive 2nd team - 4 years in college (Apr birthday)

wouldn't brag about those accomplishments given the climate back then.

[rmt]

wouldn't brag about those accomplishments given the climate back then.

What climate do you mean? The slower, more defensive emphasis back then? As compared to recent 3 time DPOY Gobert?

[8Ball]

Either Bron or Luka or Kareem

[Manny98]

Chris Paul was way up there too.

Good shout

08 Chris Paul was different

[GimmeThat]

What climate do you mean? The slower, more defensive emphasis back then? As compared to recent 3 time DPOY Gobert?

indeed, the emmy boxing match back then, with estrogen floating everywhere

[rmt]

indeed, the emmy boxing match back then, with estrogen floating everywhere

Are you implying that the NBA was a lot of acting back then or not manly? Some plain English, please.

[GimmeThat]

Are you implying that the NBA was a lot of acting back then or not manly? Some plain English, please.

this gimmick account has repeatedly stated the toxicity of trannies, yet without being proven wrong ever, it continues.

I'm guessing you're still stuck on the 'national' instead of 'professional' part.

[Phoenix]

Thats a good one. I'd go with Rose. He carried an offensively challenged Bulls team to 60 wins. 25 points and 8 assists as a small guy being the focal point of the team. Kobe had 28/5 during the season where Shaq was in his most dominant prime and commanding the most attention. 2011 Rose with 2001 Shaq would have also easily been a title all else held constant.

No bruh, you're too invested in Rose. 2001 Kobe was a better player than 2011 Rose on both ends of the court, and easily so. So you're taking Kobe as a better defensive player, inserting him on a team that was built on defense so they'd be even better in that regard, while also having access to his wider scoring skillset. There's no way the 2011 Bulls are worse off with Kobe than Rose if you swapped them.

Also, putting Rose on the 2001 Lakers doesn't net the same result, simply on the basis that Kobe was playing great defense as well as scoring at an elite level, and facilitating. Rose ain't doing all that, especially defensively.

[RRR3]

Thats a good one. I'd go with Rose. He carried an offensively challenged Bulls team to 60 wins. 25 points and 8 assists as a small guy being the focal point of the team. Kobe had 28/5 during the season where Shaq was in his most dominant prime and commanding the most attention. 2011 Rose with 2001 Shaq would have also easily been a title all else held constant.

Rose better than prime Kobe lmao. Shut up.

[Phoenix]

Rose better than prime Kobe lmao. Shut up.

I think the answer is Rose no matter who you compare him with. I asked him that already knowing the reply.