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    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    nah its actually the only real stain on an otherwise impeccable legacy. Im not being facetious when I say that I love the core American values.


    a lot of that talk loses much of it's weight when you consider the fact that they were literally enslaving other human beings.


    the only major power that really gets away with it now is china. and they are factually morally inferior to what the Americans envisioned when they were fighting for freedom from taxation.


    Im very much a direct beneficiary of core american values. especially considering how well I do with right-leaning americans in business and in life.


    I really do respect founding american values.


    its just that a lot of those words carry much less weight when you consider that they were actually enslaving and treating other human beings like absolute dogshit. creating hell on earth for a certain small minority of their population at the time.


    human nature is human nature. we will all rationalize that which we deem beneficial to ourselves.
    For sure, the American government framework was revolutionary and opened the doors for more people than any system in human history. It’s been a huge W for the whole world.

    Just sayin that with humanity, there is at times a difference between what we want things to be and how they really are. Constitution or not, if theres an opportunity to acquire big profits thru slavery theres always gonna be some people willing to practice it, in any society. Fortunately we’re just at a point where it’s rarely feasible to do. It’s not really because anyone is voluntarily putting morals over money. And the same applies to the early abolition of slavery in europe and the american union. They werent being ethical, they simply banned something they no longer needed and proclaimed themselves virtuous for it.
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    Default Re: How was your 4th of July weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by FultzNationRISE View Post
    For sure, the American government framework was revolutionary and opened the doors for more people than any system in human history. It’s been a huge W for the whole world.

    Just sayin that with humanity, there is at times a difference between what we want things to be and how they really are. Constitution or not, if theres an opportunity to acquire big profits thru slavery theres always gonna be some people willing to practice it, in any society. Fortunately we’re just at a point where it’s rarely feasible to do. It’s not really because anyone is voluntarily putting morals over money. And the same applies to the early abolition of slavery in europe and the american union.
    first paragraph is definitely true. I wont give all of the credit to american values - but they were definitely the biggest proponent of these values in the world during the years after world war 2 up until the turn of the new century


    my dad worked for the UN and the IMF in the 80's when these institutions actually carried weight and he came to washington in the 80s as a respected guest and was one of the few black men and was treated with nothing but respect. he passed away years ago but I still have those photos and recreated some of them myself when I was chilling and partying in washington and in virginia. they were very dapper back then.


    he saw firsthand how limiting this society was for so much of the population. he went to school in germany and got a degree from the esteemed university of Tubingen, a man literally born in the year 1942, and he told me how welcoming and kind the german people were. they must have learned a lesson after those years.


    he never said the same thing about the US as far as the quality of people. he only told me of the decline of the united states in the standing and in the eyes of the world's elite. and this was decades ago, nearly 30 years ago, and certainly when I was still a kid.



    america has always been the land of the free - a new land free from the rules of the old world - and that always created new opportunity - and also evil the likes of which we hardly understand today. people dont understand just how much evil and how much suffering we've inflicted on each other. they have NO clue. 50 years of liberal politics barely scratch the surface of 500 years of generational suffering. Im actually surprised that America doesnt have MORE gun violence considering the number of weapons and the number of home-grown home-made angry human beings its created. and the funniest part is that these confederate clowns used god to justify their actions - the only thing funnier is that these incels are just now getting a fraction of the bullshit that was the norm.


    people act like they understand how corrupt and ruthless other human beings actually are. and we're all guilty - Im not even judging.

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    Default Re: How was your 4th of July weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    I was in Canada attending a wedding and driving back all day on 4th of July. Long trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    god bless the American constitution.


    america would have been an undeniably great nation and the undeniable greatest empire in the history of mankind if they weren't so wishy-washy on slavery. they were the last world power to ban human slavery. absolutely disgusting and shame on the confederate states. fuck that shit.


    the american constitution is undeniably one of the greatest documents in the history of mankind. freedom liberty and the right to success and happiness. god bless American values.
    you forgot there's still China, the bastion of inhumane

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    Default Re: How was your 4th of July weekend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Spent the day out and about, but stayed in for the fireworks to comfort my dogs. Some guy behind me was firing missiles into the air it seemed like. He definitely didn't get his fireworks locally.
    And he still managed to get in a couple hundred posts.

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