who or what did lebron.OVERCOME or BUILD

[3ba11]

Nothing

He formed super-teams to beat the ancient, underdog Celtics and then AD brought him a title out West (lottery before AD)

Furthermore, two top 10 players were added to the 15' Cavs (Love, Lebron), so they were the 15' and 16' preseason favorites.. Year 1 favorites in 11' and 15' meant that Lebron didn't have to BUILD anything..

Ultimately, the "comp" argument doesn't work for preseason favorites because that would reward underachieving the expectation..

[AirBonner]

LeBron fvxking built your mind from the ground up and now resides rent free in it. Shut the fvck up!

[8Ball]

One word that Jordan never overcame:


Dynasties.


/thread.

[GrayGoat]

LeBron fvxking built your mind from the ground up and now resides rent free in it. Shut the fvck up!

[8Ball]

LeBron built 3 championship teams.


Jordan built 1, failed in Washington, failed in Charlotte.

[2much_knowledge]

Pre 2011 team captain teamup, lebrons greatest acomplishment was beating a piston team without big ben lol

[8Ball]

Pre 2011 team captain teamup, lebrons greatest acomplishment was beating a piston team without big ben lol

LeBron's game 5 against Detroit is arguably better than any Jordan game.

[3ba11]

LeBron's game 5 against Detroit is arguably better than any Jordan game.

Lebron averaged 25/7, while Jordan averaged 35-45 with 8-9 apg against teams of the 07' Pistons' caliber (53 wins and #6 SRS) - ask the 90' Sixers, 89' Knicks or 89' Cavs (#1 SRS and 57 wins)

[Spurs m8]

Nothing

[SouBeachTalents]

Some serious real estate in that deranged brain of yours.

[John8204]

Cool topic....

1. Unlike every other legend Lebron has destroyed the notion of position basketball...he's been a PF/SF/SG/PG/C during his career and really he's gone to the finals which each new position/team
(Cleveland (SF)
(Miami (PF)
(Clevelnd (SG)
(Los Angeles (PG)
By being flexible in his skills and having a checked ego he's managed a level of consistency the likes of which we haven't seen since Jerry West and Bill Russell.

2. He's overcome a fatherless upbringing to be a superstar as a teenager. What makes people like 3Ball and really all Lebron haters disgusting in my eyes is that Lebron should have been a disaster. He was basically a child star brought into the league as an 18 year old with all the money/access and power to destroy himself and others. And yet he's managed to raise a family, keep grounded with a solid core of people around him and never really do anything wrong in 20 years. He hasn't managed to get sucked into the traps of women/drugs/gambling which most top NBA players have. His biggest issue is his relationship with China...which I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you if you think he's the only one...or if their are any businesses that aren't dealing with China.

3. He has never joined a championship level team. Man this claim of him being on Super Teams is just a load of crap. Bosh, Wade, Davis, and Love are all solid players and hall of famers but not a single one of them could lead a team to a conference final on their own. Most couldn't make the playoffs. Dwayne Wade is a player who over the next ten year will fall further and further down all-time lists to the point where he might not be top 50. Kyrie, Love, and Bosh didn't make the top 75 and unless Kyrie comes back and wins a chip won't make the top 100.

4. He has to play and defeat 4 dynasty teams (Detroit, Boston, Golden State, and San Antonio) and those are four very different teams. MJ failed against Detroit and Boston but those were similar teams...you could plan and build your team and wait them out. Lebron has had to deal with Super Teams and Legends conspiring and moving in every offseason...and has had to deal with the organic building teams.

[8Ball]

Lebron averaged 25/7, while Jordan averaged 35-45 with 8-9 apg against teams of the 07' Pistons' caliber (53 wins and #6 SRS) - ask the 90' Sixers, 89' Knicks or 89' Cavs (#1 SRS and 57 wins)

jordan is 1-3 vs Isiah Thomas.


lebran in game 5 scored 29/30 of the team's last points, including 25 straight points.


arguably more impressive as jordan's best nba game.

[LeGoat4Life]

Prime Lebron got his ass handled year after year by old Celtic and old spurs

Imagine what would have happen if he played against spurs during their prime

[John8204]

Prime Lebron got his ass handled year after year by old Celtic and old spurs

Imagine what would have happen if he played against spurs during their prime

They went 2-2 against Lebron in 2010(the last time they beat Lebron) KG was 33, Ray Allen was 34 and PP was 32

[Wally450]

What a pathetic human being 3ball is.