He seems out of his prime now and probably won't creep up much higher from here.
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10-04-2022, 01:36 PM #1NBA lottery pick
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Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
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10-04-2022, 01:39 PM #2NBA rookie of the year
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
With a few rings and a better playoff resume I'd have him in the Jordan/Kobe range... 15 or so
But realistically he's in the 30s or 40s.
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10-04-2022, 01:54 PM #3National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
In that 5 - 7 of best SGs ever region
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10-04-2022, 02:01 PM #4National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
I'd put him in the 40's at SG..he's top 10 not top 5 even though SG is wide open after 3
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. West
4. Gervin
5. Iverson
6. Miller
7. Wade
8. Maravich
9. Harden
10. Drexler
For his generation amongst active players
1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. CPIII
4. Giannis
5. Kwahi
6. Durant
7. Harden
8. Carmello
9. Jokic
10. Davis
He's never going to overtake Leonard/Giannis/Durant and he hasn't accomplished what CPIII, Lebron, and Curry have done
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10-04-2022, 02:15 PM #5Embiid > Jokic
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
When I called this guy the dumbest poser on the board, this just validates my point
Originally Posted by John8204
His posts are so bad he honestly has to be a gimmick account.
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10-04-2022, 02:42 PM #6NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
Bruh, Maravich isn't near Harden on the all time list. Reggie Miller? Lol Originally Posted by John8204
I personally have Harden #5 on the SG list.
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10-04-2022, 02:58 PM #7ISH's Negro Historian
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
How is Miller 5 spots over Drexler? They played in the same era and not one season was Miller better. Originally Posted by John8204
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10-04-2022, 02:58 PM #8National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
Terrible list Originally Posted by John8204
SG is
1) Mike
2) Kobe
3) Logo
4) Flash
Then it’s up for grabs
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10-04-2022, 04:13 PM #9National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
Wade's career was to short and he was to much of a second to rank ahead of first option players (AI, Maravich, Gervin, Miller) Originally Posted by WhiteKyrie
That's your opinion I think Maravich was a top SG the biggest problem Pete had was the three point line didn't exist...had it existed Maravich would have averaged 57 PPG. He and Gervin were the best shooters of the 70's. Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
He's not five spots...he's four spots. Reggie was the best player on his team...Clyde had to join Hakeem to win. Reggie played in the tougher East while Clyde had the easier west. Drexler to me is on the same level as guys like Alex English and Adrian Dantley. Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Right...I'm dumb because I don't over inflate the players I grew up with like most of you. I actually try to contextualize history when I rank players while you revel and embrace your ignorance. And frankly you are sad person because you can't even come up with a top ten list...you just cry out oh it's dumb. You know what I think's dumb going on a message board and not wanting to actually talk about basketball. OMG this person doesn't think the same things I think so he must be a gimmick and stupid because everyone knows basketball didn't exist before 1980. Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
When I called this guy the dumbest poser on the board, this just validates my point His posts are so bad he honestly has to be a gimmick account.
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10-04-2022, 04:22 PM #10National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
iamgine - Jordan, Jokic, Robinson, Miller, Rodman, Isiah Thomas, Drexler Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Champ - Magic, Wilt, Russell, AI, Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, McHale
John8204 - LeBron, Kobe, Doncic, Erving, Moses Malone, Walt Frazier, Thurmond
AlternativeAcc. - Bird, Giannis, Klay, AD, Stockton, Ewing, Barry
SouBeachTalents - Curry, Kareem, Dirk, McGrady, Pierce, Oscar Robertson, Walton
Manny98 - Durant, Shaq, Pippen, Harden, Payton, Lillard, Melo
1987_Lakers - Hakeem, Garnett, West, CP3, Havlicek, Nash, Baylor
Hakeem Olajuwon - Duncan, Kawhi, Wade, Allen, Kidd, Karl Malone, Parish, George Gervin
1st Round
1. Shooter - LeBron James
2. 1987_Lakers - Michael Jordan
3. Im Still Ballin - Shaquille O'Neal
4. AlternativeAcc. - Larry Bird
5. Wally450 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. SouBeachTalents - Hakeem Olajuwon
7 John8204 -Wilt Chamberlain
8. iamgine - Stephen Curry
9. post - Nikola Jokic
2nd Round
10. post - Giannis Antetokounmpo
11. iamgine - Kevin Durant
12. John8204 - Kobe Bryant
13. SouBeachTalents - Magic Johnson
14. Wally450 - Kevin Garnett
15. AlternativeAcc. - Tim Duncan
16. Im Still Ballin - Bill Russell
17. 1987_Lakers - David Robinson
18. Shooter - Moses Malone
3rd Round
19. Shooter - Chris Paul
20. 1987_Lakers - Kawhi Leonard
21. Im Still Ballin - Scottie Pippen
22. AlternativeAcc. - Bill Walton
23. Wally450 - Julius Erving
24. SouBeachTalents - Dirk Nowitzki
25. John8204 - Jerry West
26. iamgine - Anthony Davis
27. post - Luka Doncic
4th round
28. post - Joel Embiid
29. iamgine - Paul George
30. John8204 - Charles Barkley
31. SouBeachTalents - Dwyane Wade
32. Wally450 - Klay Thompson
33. AlternativeAcc. - Tracy McGrady
34. Im Still Ballin - Steve Nash
35. 1987_Lakers - Ray Allen
36. Shooter - James Harden
5th round
37. Shooter - Kevin McHale
38. 1987_Lakers - John Stockton
39. Im Still Ballin - Reggie Miller
40. AlternativeAcc. - Chauncey Billups
41. Wally450 - Isiah Thomas
42. SouBeachTalents - Jayson Tatum
43. John8204 - Elgin Baylor
44. iamgine - Jason Kidd
45. post - Rudy Gobert
6th round
46. post - Draymond Green
47. Iamgine - Dennis Rodman
48. John8204 - Jimmy Butler
49. SouBeachTalents - Oscar Robertson
50. Wally450 - Manu Ginobili
51. AlternativeAcc. - Gary Payton
52. Im Still Ballin - Karl Malone
53. 1987_Lakers - Paul Pierce
54. Shooter - Ben Wallace
7th round
55. Shooter - Chris Webber
56. 1987_Lakers - Rasheed Wallace
57. Im Still Ballin - Patrick Ewing
58. AlternativeAcc. - Dwight Howard
59. Wally450 - Pau Gasol
60. SouBeachTalents - Nate Thurmond
61 John8204 - Dominique Wilkins
62. iamgine - Penny Hardaway
63. post - Kyle Korver
8th round
64. post - Zion Williamson
65. Iamgine - Dikembe Mutombo
66. John8204 - Damian Lillard
67. SouBeachTalents - John Havlicek
68. Wally450 - Alonzo Mourning
69. AlternativeAcc. - Chris Mullin
70. Im Still Ballin - Shane Battier
71. 1987_Lakers - Walt Frazier
72. Shooter - Kris Middleton
9th Round
73. Shooter - Kyrie Irving
74. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
75. Im Still Ballin - Mark Price
76. AlternativeAcc. - Andrei Kirilenko
77. Wally450 - Clyde Drexler
78. SouBeachTalents - Al Horford
79. John8204 - Bill Laimbeer
80. iamgine - Grant Hill
81. Post - Jrue Holiday
10th Round
82. post - elena delle donne
83. Iamgine - Arvydas Sabonis
84. John8204 - Sidney Moncrief
85. SouBeachTalents - Eddie Jones
86. Wally450 - Rajon Rondo
87. AlternativeAcc. - Joe Dumars
88. Im Still Ballin - Michael Cooper
89. 1987_Lakers - Artis Gilmore
90. Shooter
You should do the mock drafts because Reggie always goes way ahead of Clyde..this forum doesn't have a search but I would be very curious to see if Clyde has even been taken over Reggie
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10-04-2022, 04:31 PM #11NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
That's different though. People value 3 point shooting and chemistry when doing all-time drafts, which is why you always see Ray, Klay, and Miller get drafted pretty early. Originally Posted by John8204
Look at that board. Klay got picked before Harden, but nobody thinks he is a better player. Klay just works better with other high usage players and gives you defense and shooting that Harden doesnt.
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10-04-2022, 04:40 PM #12Decent playground baller
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
He’s a great basketball player in the same way Randy macho man savage is a great wrestler
The only way you come to conclusions like that is by admitting the whole thing is made up
He’s on par with World B Free. He’s a quitter, he’s a loser, he’s fat and out of shape, lives in the strip club, plays no defense, flops and flails like a girl and is a generally unlikable and insufferable player
At least world be free was fun
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10-04-2022, 04:52 PM #13National High School Star
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
It's not binary though...Klay might not be better than Harden but Harden isn't good enough to get picked over guys with defense, and chemistry. James Harden is a great sixth man but he's not that great a centerpiece on a team. We've watched MVP caliber players try and get a ring out of him and it doesn't work. Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
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10-04-2022, 04:59 PM #14College superstar
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
Glad someone has some sense. Originally Posted by Druckenmiller
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10-04-2022, 05:05 PM #15Red Nation
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Re: Where do you rank Harden on the all-time list?
Top 30 all-time and top 4-5 SG ever
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