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2nd Greatest Player
Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
14.7 ppg on 35.1 FG%, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg, 8.56 per
1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats. And that is also a post injury Pippen.
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
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Lol
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
He was still good last year I would wait it could just be a slump.
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Washed out? What does that mean?
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Is he entirely responsible for the dubs' losing record atm?
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Frustrating to what degree he is harming our defense. Even more so than the fall off in offense. Defense is one of those things that people notice less but matters just as much. Klay cannot stay in front of any offensive player. The defense keeps getting broken and the opposing team has an ideal offensive possession with the ball finding the open man against the broken D.
His frustration on his inability on the offensive end, leading to a lot of other bad decisions. Just watching now, Klay bobbling the ball on the dribble, and then chucking it far too fast at a teammate (Wiggins) who is too close for that kind of fast pass, who loses the ball. Wiggins may get charged with the turnover but it was Klay's rushed, errant pass that was the problem.
Klay needs to be coming off the bench; I'd say a max of 15 min/game until he can get his legs again on the defensive end.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Originally Posted by Airupthere
Washed out? What does that mean?
I meant washed up. Meaning past his prime
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
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Bad comparison to Pippen because Hornacek destroys Klay too:
Regular Season
Hornacek'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay............ 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts
Playoffs
Hornacek'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay............ 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts
Hornacek is was a similar-level producer to Pippen.. Out of everyone in the top 50, only Pippen wasn't an elite scorer, assist guy or rebounding guy - everyone else was elite in one or more of these areas.. Pippen was an Iggy or Wiggins-level producer that was inflated to all-time status by the winning spotlight..
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NBA Legend
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Hornacek never made All-NBA nor All Defensive.
Klay has
2ez
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Pass The Salt
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Hornacek never made All-NBA
Klay has
2ez[
^^^ media accolade due to winning spotlight inflation..
Just like Pippen.
The stats clearly show that Klay was a vastly inferior producer to Hornacek, while Pippen was barely better than Hornacek.. But despite Klay and Pippen producing at a Hornacek level or worse, goat dynasties and unprecedented winning spotlight inflated them to all-time status.. People literally think Klay and Curry are similar and same thing with Pippen/Jordan... Yet Klay is averaging 15 ppg right now on pippen-efficiency while Curry is still the best player in the league..
Last edited by 3ba11; 11-17-2022 at 03:45 PM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Originally Posted by 3ba11
^^^ media accolade due to winning spotlight inflation...
The majority of MJ's All-defensive nods was based on winning.
Can't praise Moncrief and Cummings for their All-NBA nods while saying others like Thompson and Pippen didn't deserve it.
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
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Iguodala 2009 Playoffs vs Dwight.... 21.5... 6.3... 6.7... 44.9%... lost in 6 (no kukoc miracle)
Pippen 1994 Playoffs vs Ewing......... 21.7... 7.7... 4.7... 40.5%... lost in 7 (kukoc miracle)
^^^ Pippen was an Iggy-level player that was simply lucky to play alongside the GOAT in a 2-star vs 2-star format (90's) - complete parity, aka perfectly-fair competitive environment - anyone wins alongisde the goat in that format
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Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
The majority of MJ's All-defensive nods was based on winning.
Can't praise Moncrief and Cummings for their All-NBA nods while saying others like Thompson and Pippen didn't deserve it.
Moncrief and Cummings have the stats and dominance... Moncrief won DPOY twice and Cummings could dominate and be THAT GUY (see the OP).
Meanwhile, Pippen was an iggy or wiggins-caliber performer that was inflated by the winning spotlight - there's zero examples of him playing above this caliber - see an example of peak Pippen playing at an Iggy-caliber in the previous post stats (94' Pippen against Ewing vs. Iggy's performance against 09' Dwight).
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NBA Legend
Re: Klay Thompson is washed out. 1998 and 1999 Scottie Pippen put up better stats
MJ was a walking media based award
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