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06-09-2023, 04:08 AM
#106
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by Akeem34TheDream
OOOF okay this post aged terribly and i know that his supporting cast was terrible in the last 2 playoffs but the way they got swept against the Suns was so terrible. Chris Paul pretty much exposed him in that series. Seriously go watch it. But the Nuggets and Jokic got much better obviously. I have heard someone say those 2 playoff experiences made him a better player because he became a more aggressive scorer and i agree with that. Also Jokic and Murray compliment each other beautifully. I just regret the Embiid part, i feel like he played even worse in recent playoffs.
On/off is a terrible stat to use, because it highly overrates starters on good teams or good benches on bad teams.
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06-13-2023, 08:56 AM
#107
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
Still can't believe this guy had so many haters.
Just goes to show the NBA fan base is casual and dumb as hell.
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06-13-2023, 08:58 AM
#108
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
He is underrated among the fan base though...which is my point. He is barely talked about just like Duncan was barely talked about compared to Shaq, Kobe, and even KG.
I'd be willing to bet that the average NBA fan holds someone like Carmelo Anthony in higher regards than Jokic.
God damn I made so many good posts in this thread. Bolding this one for sure since I called it early. So many Jokic haters/casuals literally JUST realized this postseason Jokic took Carmelo's Denver number (15). I saw a ton of comments saying the Nugs should've never allowed Jokic to wear Carmelo's number and Carmelo is a better basketball player...
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06-13-2023, 09:00 AM
#109
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Jokic just had TWENTY rebounds in the first half tonight. Currently has 27/24/8...all this in only 32 minutes.
Seriously there has never been a player like Jokic. He is just as unique as a Lebron or Giannis. Really hope this dude gets a ring one day because he is easily one of the best offensive players ever. Basically a Dirk/Bird hybrid.
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06-13-2023, 09:04 AM
#110
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Jokic is GOATED. Best offensive player in the league for me and easily one of the best all time.
Dude has been a superstar every playoff run unlike the Sixers center.

I don't have a single wrong post in this thread.
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06-13-2023, 09:04 AM
#111
Embiid > Jokic
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
God damn I made so many good posts in this thread. Bolding this one for sure since I called it early. So many Jokic haters/casuals literally JUST realized this postseason Jokic took Carmelo's Denver number (15). I saw a ton of comments saying the Nugs should've never allowed Jokic to wear Carmelo's number and Carmelo is a better basketball player...
This is 3ball level douchiness, you should be better than that. And I'd like to see these comments of people in 2023 claiming Melo is better than Jokic, post links/screenshots of this.
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06-13-2023, 09:29 AM
#112
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
 This is 3ball level douchiness, you should be better than that. And I'd like to see these comments of people in 2023 claiming Melo is better than Jokic, post links/screenshots of this.
Sorry, I agree it's douchiness but I've been on the Jokic bandwagon since the bubble.
Also should've been more clear, I saw a lot of people claiming the Nuggets version of Melo is better than Jokic. Come on..you know what crowd is saying this (MuH mIdRaNgE, PuRe HoOpEr crowd).
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10-30-2024, 10:25 AM
#113
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
The GOAT just continuing to do GOAT things.
This will Jokic's 5th year in a row (assuming healthy) that he has been the best player in the league. How many other players can say that?
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10-30-2024, 12:46 PM
#114
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
Kareem can say that.
MJ can say that.
Lebron can say it.
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11-10-2024, 09:25 PM
#115
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
MJ (88-93): 30.3 PER, 59.3 TS%, .288 WS/48, 11.2 BPM (8.5 OBPM, 2.8 DBPM)
Jokic (20-25): 31.6, 66.3 TS%, .301 WS/48, 13 BPM (9 OBPM, 4 DBPM)
GoatJokic straight raw-dogging MJ
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01-22-2025, 01:05 PM
#116
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
So, more than three years after my OP, Jokic is still continuing his GOAT-level peak.
Honestly just removing accolades, he's already one of the 10 best players of all time, probably top 5 honestly.
I'd take him over Bird and Magic any day of the week.
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01-22-2025, 01:11 PM
#117
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
When I wake up every morning and have my morning coffee, I enter a deep silence, a meditation where I ponder on how in this infinite universe Stronglurk was able to enlighten us all with the knowledge of Jokic being an all time great basketball player in late 2023.
At the time young Nikola was just a boy, and to think he'd ever rise to the heights OP predicted is just... incredible. Nostradamus type stuff. Remarkable genius on a level rarely seen.
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01-22-2025, 01:20 PM
#118
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by tpols
When I wake up every morning and have my morning coffee, I enter a deep silence, a meditation where I ponder on how in this infinite universe Stronglurk was able to enlighten us all with the knowledge of Jokic being an all time great basketball player in late 2023.
At the time young Nikola was just a boy, and to think he'd ever rise to the heights OP predicted is just... incredible. Nostradamus type stuff. Remarkable genius on a level rarely seen.
Late 2023? The OP is December 2022 and no one was calling him GOAT-level except me. This is B4 his 2023 GOAT-ring and literally fans and sports media were still shitting on Jokic and claiming he was overrated and guys like Embiid were superior
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01-22-2025, 01:25 PM
#119
Embiid > Jokic
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by tpols
When I wake up every morning and have my morning coffee, I enter a deep silence, a meditation where I ponder on how in this infinite universe Stronglurk was able to enlighten us all with the knowledge of Jokic being an all time great basketball player in late 2023.
At the time young Nikola was just a boy, and to think he'd ever rise to the heights OP predicted is just... incredible. Nostradamus type stuff. Remarkable genius on a level rarely seen.
You have to give him credit, Jokic had only been a multiple MVP with GOAT tier production/metrics for several years, and OP called it. He will, justifiably, continue to bump his threads to remind the board of his profound wisdom of the game, and I just hope the posters on here take advantage by basking in the basketball acumen. It's honestly a wonderful thing, and I frankly don't appreciate the slighted sarcasm in your post.
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01-22-2025, 01:58 PM
#120
Re: I still think Jokic is underrated
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
You have to give him credit, Jokic had only been a multiple MVP with GOAT tier production/metrics for several years, and OP called it. He will, justifiably, continue to bump his threads to remind the board of his profound wisdom of the game, and I just hope the posters on here take advantage by basking in the basketball acumen. It's honestly a wonderful thing, and I frankly don't appreciate the slighted sarcasm in your post.
You misunderstand. Jokic WAS underrated when I made this thread. Go read through the pages.
This was before Jok won a ring and there were still SO many people hating on him in the media and fanbase. Many fans and media members DID NOT think Jokic deserved both MVPs, despite him playing at a GOAT level.
We even saw the consequences of this when Embiid literally won a pity-MVP. That PROVED my entire premise correct.
Giannis won back-to-back MVPS, but no one had him GOAT-level because he simply isn't. Jokic actually DESERVED to be looked at as GOAT-level but people hated on him because he is a foreign player, "unathletic", and he went against all the "celebrity" culture that exists in the NBA.
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