Lebron is shooting 8 threes per game at 31% - that's all-time low IQ basketball

[3ba11]

Otoh, MJ had genius IQ by always shooting at today's standard anytime he had a modicum of volume (more than 1.5 attempts).

This includes the 90' regular season (38% on 3 attempts) or the 93' Playoffs (39% on 4 attempts) or the 92' Finals (43% on 5 attempts)

Notice how his efficiency increased with volume because that's what happens when all-time shooting form gets in rhythm, aka Jordan would have a lot of "shrug" games in today's higher volume format.

TLDR: it's confirmed that Lebron's basketball IQ is low compared to Jordan's due to bad jumpshooting selection (thread title), #1 all-time in turnovers, and zero #1 offenses in 2 decades despite goat offensive help (while MJ has four #1 offenses with very weak offensive help).

This gap in IQ and brand of basketball explains why Jordan is 6/6 without super-teams, while Lebron is 4/10 with a worst-ever, lottery record on the championship level (22-33), aka much lower team ceilings regardless of cast (20-21 with super-teams in the 11', 12', 13', 14', 17', and 20' Finals).

[expansionera]

Explain MJ’s 1-9 without Pippen

[GrayGoat]

Explain MJ’s 1-9 without Pippen

Game over

[3ba11]

Explain MJ’s 1-9 without Pippen

Timing coincidence - Durant, Lebron, Curry and Giannis were lottery in their first few years, so the early period where most young players lose coincided with the few years that Jordan didn't have Pippen.

But by Jordan's 3rd healthy season (88'), he made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron, except he had a rookie team of low producers in a conference that required a super-team to win, while Lebron had a veteran high seed of decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning most years..

Lebron needed 3 years to develop his team into a favored high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs as a rookie 8 seed, so you can't compare a Year 3 high seed of veterans to a Year 1 eight seed of rookies

[Spurs m8]

This..


Goes missing in 4th

Siev on D


No wonder this guy is killing the team so badly

What's the Lakers winning % with and without him this season?

[Xiao Yao You]

Clarkson is praised for similar numbers

[expansionera]

Timing coincidence - Durant, Lebron, Curry and Giannis were lottery in their first few years, so the early period where most young players lose coincided with the few years that Jordan didn't have Pippen.

But by Jordan's 3rd healthy season (88'), he made the 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron, except he had a rookie team of low producers in a conference that required a super-team to win, while Lebron had a veteran high seed of decorated teammates in a conference that 1-star teams were winning most years..

Lebron needed 3 years to develop his team into a favored high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs as a rookie 8 seed, so you can't compare a Year 3 high seed of veterans to a Year 1 eight seed of rookies

How many playoff wins in Washington without Pip?

[Full Court]

His basketball IQ has always been massively overrated.

Either he's gone senile in his old age, or he just a LOW IQ player. Here's a recent example:

[3ba11]

Explain MJ’s 1-9 without Pippen

Pippen Education


Among notable 90's sidekicks, Pippen had the worst passing, efficiency, spacing, clutch (here, here, here, here, here, here), and lowest peak capability (not on scouting report, here).. Pippen's low peak capability meant that MJ faced maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load) for every season and series of his career (unique to Jordan).. As the links show, this is all historical record..

Notice how Pippen says that he couldn't win alongside a great center in the "spacing" link (he says he couldn't provide the spacing that a center-oriented offense requires) - so shooters like Starks or Sean Elliot would be 2nd options alongside centers like Ewing or Duncan.. Pippen was only a 2nd option alongside the goat scorer and otherwise guys like Kukoc were preferred in the 2nd half of playoff games.. In the 98' Playoffs, Kukoc was 2nd on the Bulls in 4th quarter scoring (kukoc, pippen) and clutch time scoring (last 5 within 5).. Outside of the triangle and dynasty system that he grew up in, Pippen was worse than Jeff Green (14 on 40% alongside Hakeem) - he was only a 2nd option alongside the goat scorer.

Accordingly, the proper way to perceive MJ and Pippen is that MJ was simply good enough to win with Pippen's decade-worst passing and efficiency among 90's sidekicks - the resulting winning spotlight is why Pippen started making All-NBA in 1992 (5th season).. Compare this trajectory to 4th-year Jamal Murray from the 2020 Playoffs - Jokic wasn't good enough to win with Murray's 27/5/7 on 63% true shooting (better than Pippen ever played), so Murray wasn't elevated to media accolade thereafter like Pippen.. This is just a simple example but it applies to anyone that fails to win with Iggy-caliber help from the sidekick.

[Axe]

1-9

[Legend248]

1-9

awww are you ****ing idiot? What has pippen won without jordan? LMAO no ligma balls ****** or ill have you shine my ****ing shoes ok? You ****ing listening boy? Hey boy?

[Spurs m8]

awww are you ****ing idiot? What has pippen won without jordan? LMAO no ligma balls ****** or ill have you shine my ****ing shoes ok? You ****ing listening boy? Hey boy?

Don't worry about Axe...he is a merman

[Full Court]

Don't worry about Axe...he is a merman

A merman and a dingus.

[Axe]

Lmao i just said 1-9 to mock op and then his homosexual disciples suddenly scrambled about it.

[Yeezy]

Explain MJ’s 1-9 without Pippen

looks like lebrons finals record without bail outs