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Red Nation
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Transition scorer - LeBron
White defensive player - Marc Gasol
Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD
Ball handler over 6’7” - KD
Passing 4 - Draymond
Perimeter defender - Tony Allen
Screen game defender any size - idk
Eurostep - Harden, Wade, Manu
Spot up shooter - Klay
Slasher vs a set defense - LeBron or Wade
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NBA Legend
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Making my own category here:
Best playoff series I've seen from an individual player from someone who was watching all the way back to Bird/Magic
Hakeem vs Drob was the best I ever saw. Drob won the MVP that season and Hakeem had a huge chip on his shoulder. It was complete domination.
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... on a leash
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Transition scorer
LeBron James
White defensive player
Caruso, Tayshaun Prince or Shane Battier? Didnt see AK47
Shooter over 6’5”
Dirk
Ball handler over 6’7”
LeBron James? Thinking SF+ here
Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position)
Gasol, McHale, Garnett?
Perimeter defender
Lebron James
Screen game defender any size
Eurostep
Wade 100%
Spot up shooter
Ray Allen, Steve Novak, Kyle Korver, J.J. Redick
Slasher vs a set defense
LeBron James, peak Wade, Harden, but also have to mention guys like Ginobili, Parker, Morant, peak Rose, Westbrook..
Last edited by ArbitraryWater; 02-01-2023 at 10:18 PM.
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... on a leash
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by Smook A.
Transition scorer - LeBron
KD is a horribe ballhandler. lets say mediocre but you get the point.
Fumbles the ball all the time. Most of his TOs are just losing the ball... carries it notoriously. Very weak dribble without the constant carry.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Transition scorer - Dr. J ,
White defensive player - Bird
Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD
Ball handler over 6’7” - Lebron
Passing 4 - Chambers
Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday
Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday
Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete
Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis
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Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by Jasper
Transition scorer - Dr. J ,
White defensive player - Bird
Shooter over 65 - Dirk or KD
Ball handler over 67 - Lebron
Passing 4 - Chambers
Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday
Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday
Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete
Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis
Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron
thats absurd
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by arbitrarywater
giannis is not a better sasher against a set defense than lebron
Thats absurd
90% of giannis points are slashing whether set defense or transition/ you haven't watched him his whole career like i have.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron
thats absurd
You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Transition Scorer - LeBron James
White Defender - Kirk Hinrich
Shooter over 6'5 - Dirk Nowitski
Ball handler over 6'7 - LeBron James
Passing 4 - Draymond Green
Perimeter Defender - Gary Payton
Pick and Roll Defender - Kevin Garnett
Eurostep - Manu Ginobili
Spot up shooter - Stephen Curry
Slasher vs set defense - Michael Jordan
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Please clap.
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Transition scorer Jordan but there were a few guys that were unstoppable.
White defensive player I will uncomfortably say Stockton
Shooter over 65 KD
Ball handler over 67 No sure answer but Magic and Steve Smith come to mind
Passing 4(lets say majority of career at that position) Antoine Walker. **** yall in advance
Perimeter defender Pippen
Screen game defender any size Robert Williams
Eurostep Ginobili
Spot up shooter Klay Thompson
Slasher vs a set defense Jordan
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Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by Overdrive
You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?
haha why the sic! abbreviation.
I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.
Im down with Caruso. That man is good.
Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
haha why the sic! abbreviation.
I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.
Im down with Caruso. That man is good.
Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.
To put emphasis on blaze asking for white guys and you picking two black guys. Maybe you meant to put them on the perimeter defender list.
Wade was an elite slasher for about 9 years. He slowed down with it somewhere during the '13 season, while he still killed OKC with it in the '12 finals.
So you've seen Wade's elite slashing just as much as Battier's elite defense. IIRC you said you started watching in '10.
Yeah, Prince was crazy. He was on my shortlist for perimeter defenders along the mentioned ones, Battier, Bowen, Marion, Kidd and Eddie Jones.
At first I thought your Lebron pick for ball handlers above 6'7" was weird but after thinking about it. There are not many of that size that generally handle the ball and especially in your time of following.
Absolutely agree on Durant not being a good ball handler. His handles definately come from refs ignoring the rules.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.
Magic Johnson when he came to Holland in 1993 and when i wen't to Houston i saw some pros from the Rockets practice. Don't really remember much.
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