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    Default Re: Best _____ you ever saw live.

    Transition scorer - LeBron

    White defensive player - Marc Gasol

    Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

    Ball handler over 6’7” - KD

    Passing 4 - Draymond

    Perimeter defender - Tony Allen

    Screen game defender any size - idk

    Eurostep - Harden, Wade, Manu

    Spot up shooter - Klay

    Slasher vs a set defense - LeBron or Wade

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    Making my own category here:

    Best playoff series I've seen from an individual player from someone who was watching all the way back to Bird/Magic

    Hakeem vs Drob was the best I ever saw. Drob won the MVP that season and Hakeem had a huge chip on his shoulder. It was complete domination.

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    Transition scorer
    LeBron James

    White defensive player
    Caruso, Tayshaun Prince or Shane Battier? Didnt see AK47

    Shooter over 6’5”
    Dirk

    Ball handler over 6’7”
    LeBron James? Thinking SF+ here

    Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position)
    Gasol, McHale, Garnett?


    Perimeter defender
    Lebron James

    Screen game defender any size

    Eurostep
    Wade 100%

    Spot up shooter
    Ray Allen, Steve Novak, Kyle Korver, J.J. Redick

    Slasher vs a set defense
    LeBron James, peak Wade, Harden, but also have to mention guys like Ginobili, Parker, Morant, peak Rose, Westbrook..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smook A. View Post
    Transition scorer - LeBron

    KD is a horribe ballhandler. lets say mediocre but you get the point.

    Fumbles the ball all the time. Most of his TOs are just losing the ball... carries it notoriously. Very weak dribble without the constant carry.

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    Transition scorer - Dr. J ,

    White defensive player - Bird

    Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

    Ball handler over 6’7” - Lebron

    Passing 4 - Chambers

    Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday

    Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday

    Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
    Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete

    Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    Transition scorer - Dr. J ,

    White defensive player - Bird

    Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

    Ball handler over 6’7” - Lebron

    Passing 4 - Chambers

    Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday

    Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday

    Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
    Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete

    Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis

    Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron


    thats absurd

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbitrarywater View Post
    giannis is not a better sasher against a set defense than lebron


    Thats absurd
    90% of giannis points are slashing whether set defense or transition/ you haven't watched him his whole career like i have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron


    thats absurd
    You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?

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    Transition Scorer - LeBron James

    White Defender - Kirk Hinrich

    Shooter over 6'5 - Dirk Nowitski

    Ball handler over 6'7 - LeBron James

    Passing 4 - Draymond Green

    Perimeter Defender - Gary Payton

    Pick and Roll Defender - Kevin Garnett

    Eurostep - Manu Ginobili

    Spot up shooter - Stephen Curry

    Slasher vs set defense - Michael Jordan

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    Transition scorer Jordan but there were a few guys that were unstoppable.

    White defensive player I will uncomfortably say Stockton

    Shooter over 6’5” KD

    Ball handler over 6’7” No sure answer but Magic and Steve Smith come to mind

    Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Antoine Walker. **** yall in advance

    Perimeter defender Pippen

    Screen game defender any size Robert Williams

    Eurostep Ginobili

    Spot up shooter Klay Thompson

    Slasher vs a set defense Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?
    haha why the sic! abbreviation.

    I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.

    Im down with Caruso. That man is good.

    Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    haha why the sic! abbreviation.

    I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.

    Im down with Caruso. That man is good.

    Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.
    To put emphasis on blaze asking for white guys and you picking two black guys. Maybe you meant to put them on the perimeter defender list.

    Wade was an elite slasher for about 9 years. He slowed down with it somewhere during the '13 season, while he still killed OKC with it in the '12 finals.

    So you've seen Wade's elite slashing just as much as Battier's elite defense. IIRC you said you started watching in '10.

    Yeah, Prince was crazy. He was on my shortlist for perimeter defenders along the mentioned ones, Battier, Bowen, Marion, Kidd and Eddie Jones.

    At first I thought your Lebron pick for ball handlers above 6'7" was weird but after thinking about it. There are not many of that size that generally handle the ball and especially in your time of following.

    Absolutely agree on Durant not being a good ball handler. His handles definately come from refs ignoring the rules.

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    Magic Johnson when he came to Holland in 1993 and when i wen't to Houston i saw some pros from the Rockets practice. Don't really remember much.

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