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    Thumbs up Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Has Klay proved himself worthy without Steph? I've been impressed by his ability to scale up his game. This is not a particularly talented roster. Klay could probably lead this team to the playoffs if Curry's salary was replaced with a better bench and a decent point guard.

    Give Klay Tyus Jones, Mason Plumlee, Eric Gordon, and a healthy GP2. He leads that squad to the playoffs.

    - 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, only 1.8 topg
    - 42.7% 3PT, 90% FT, 59.33% TS
    - 8-8 record
    - +1.6 net rating
    Klay Thompson has averaged 26.7 points, 4.3 rebounds and 2.6 assists in 16 games without Stephen Curry this season.

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kla...eph-curry-2023
    Some of his performances this year without Steph:







    He also played 9 games without Steph last season.

    Klay Thompson averaged 26.3 points, 3.8 rebounds and 2.6 assists in 9 games without Stephen Curry in 2021-22.

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kla...eph-curry-2022
    - 26.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.6 apg, only 1.4 topg
    - 43.9% 3PT, 88.9% FT, 58.34% TS
    - 3-6 record
    - -0.3 net rating
    Added all up, that's 25 games without Steph:

    Klay Thompson has averaged 26.6 points, 4.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists in 25 games without Stephen Curry since 2021-22.

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=k...-22+to+2022-23
    - 26.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.6 apg, only 1.7 topg
    - 43.1% 3PT, 89.8% FT, 58.90% TS
    - 11-14 record
    - +0.9 net rating
    Last edited by Im Still Ballin; 02-25-2023 at 05:54 AM.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    I would like to see Klay as a franchise player in his own team, to see what kind of numbers he would put up and how far he would get the team in the playoffs.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    No chef, no problem.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    no warriors other guys all regressed this year(wiggins, dray, poole etc), the roster isnt very impressive outside steph as you said. Ofc if this was 15 or 16 warriors they would make it and they have a chance last year. Just to use an estimate for last year using one impact metric, steph had 15 expected wins over replacement by epm. an average player might get you 5 wins playing his minutes(monte morris played 30mpg last year as a starter and ham an epm of 0.4 right around average produced 5 wins) and a better bench gives you a few wins(usually doesnt move the needle that much). warriors would be like 45-37 instead of 53-29.

    even with steph's missed time this year, an average healthy starter and a better bench is easily behind the lakers record wise the lakers are 12th still

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by pandiani17 View Post
    I would like to see Klay as a franchise player in his own team, to see what kind of numbers he would put up and how far he would get the team in the playoffs.
    Klay's not a franchise player, but he's legitimately one of the portable stars of all time. Put him on ANY team setup and he can be a contributor.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Klay was called washed a few months ago, but field goal % aside his numbers are right on par with his all-star seasons. His injuries robbed him of his all-defense level lateral movement, but offensively he's rounding into form.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Klay didn't play ball at all in the off-season so he wasn't in game shape early in the season. If he gets back to his old self that will be a big help come playoff time.

    The young guys have been pretty disappointing though.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Klay didn't play ball at all in the off-season so he wasn't in game shape early in the season. If he gets back to his old self that will be a big help come playoff time.

    The young guys have been pretty disappointing though.
    He's getting old tho, uncle.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    He's getting old tho, uncle.


    Klay is 33 dingus. Age shouldn't be a problem for him yet. His big problem was recovering from two horrible injuries. Looks like the recovery has progressed a lot.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Klay is 33 dingus. Age shouldn't be a problem for him yet. His big problem was recovering from two horrible injuries. Looks like the recovery has progressed a lot.


    Why did your stance on him changed now that he seems to be doing well while chef isn't playing? You were not like this towards him before when he was playing like crap.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post


    Why did your stance on him changed now that he seems to be doing well while chef isn't playing? You were not like this towards him before when he was playing like crap.
    Yeah, because he was playing like crap. I treat guys better when they play well than when the play like crap.

    He was crap in the regular season last year but I gave him a pass because he was just coming off an injury. He had the whole summer to get ready for this season but came into the season out of shape.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Yeah, because he was playing like crap. I treat guys better when they play well than when the play like crap.

    He was crap in the regular season last year but I gave him a pass because he was just coming off an injury. He had the whole summer to get ready for this season but came into the season out of shape.
    And when he came back last season to play again, the warriors made the playoffs and even won the finals last year. Such impact.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Klay's not a franchise player, but he's legitimately one of the portable stars of all time. Put him on ANY team setup and he can be a contributor.
    He’s what a team would have considered one until we got to the days 22 points weren’t considered much. Klay would probably be the best player on most teams in NBA history, but it would take too much legwork to figure out.

    Guess it comes down to the usual “Is he the best player on a champion?” discussion which to me is usually stupid because most all time greats aren’t but were clearly franchise players.

    I suppose it comes down to if franchise player means…the level of player who usually leads a franchise…or the level you would ideally want to do it. If it’s the second…what are there like 6-7 at a time? But 30 franchises?

    Id say most teams in history that had a Klay would be looking for people to surround him with not looking for someone to make him a sidekick. Acquiring a player who firmly puts Klay in the backseat isn’t usually feasible. How many teams right now have anyone that good? To make prime Klay a firm number 2?

    Im sure the number will seem bigger than usual with us having 6-7 31+ ppg players and all manner of scoring madness but a normal season? A normal nba as established for most of our lives?

    You don’t get many at once.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    And when he came back last season to play again, the warriors made the playoffs and even won the finals last year. Such impact.

    Their record was better before he came back. They were 29-9 last season before Klay played his first game.

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    Default Re: Klay Thompson 16 games without Steph: 26.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.6 apg on 59.33% TS

    Klay is what I would call a weak first option, but an ideal second option. He can play D and be productive on offense off the ball which makes it easy to pair him with a top tier star.

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