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2nd Greatest Player
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Good college starter
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Defensive 3 seconds is illegal defense. That has made it easier to score in the NBA along with removal of hand-checking and now freedom of movement.
There you just learned another reason why MJ > your favorite player
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I rule the local playground
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
He struggled because there was no spacing (pre-3 point era and no skilled scorers like Durant on the team that could create spacing by attracting so much defensive attention) or elite point guard play (Kidd, CP3, Rondo type players).
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by BigShotBob
Defensive 3 seconds is illegal defense. That has made it easier to score in the NBA along with removal of hand-checking and now freedom of movement.
There you just learned another reason why MJ > your favorite player
HUh?? Michael Jordan averaged 20 ppg when they made Zone defense legal in the NBA. It's easier to score if all players play man to man defense instead of zone defense. Jordan would be a less talented version of Demar Derozan if he plays in today's NBA.
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NBA Legend
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
I think Duncan struggled more due to the inconsistency of the officiating not just the different rules. The refs in the Olympics weren't that good. They've improved over the years but they're still not NBA level. That being said, as one of the leaders of the team he did let it get to his head too much.
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Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by FKAri
I think Duncan struggled more due to the inconsistency of the officiating not just the different rules. The refs in the Olympics weren't that good. They've improved over the years but they're still not NBA level. That being said, as one of the leaders of the team he did let it get to his head too much.
There's also fairly strong accounts that he (and a lot of the other guys) did not get along with Larry Brown and his style of coaching at all. I think when you combine that with the wildly inconsistent and often selfish guard play, that he kind of checked out at times.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by Lebron23
HUh?? Michael Jordan averaged 20 ppg when they made Zone defense legal in the NBA. It's easier to score if all players play man to man defense instead of zone defense. Jordan would be a less talented version of Demar Derozan if he plays in today's NBA.
you probably really believe that shit
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
There's also fairly strong accounts that he (and a lot of the other guys) did not get along with Larry Brown and his style of coaching at all. I think when you combine that with the wildly inconsistent and often selfish guard play, that he kind of checked out at times.
Brown was the wrong coach as was most of the team that was still being picked on hype not on building a team
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
it wasn't easier for Tatum and the Celtics last night against a zone
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Good college starter
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
It's hard to consider duncan as being one of the greatest when you watch that 2004 run
ref's sucked, but he should have been flat out unstoppable and he just wasn't. Just a brutally bad showing by him and probably the primary reason they lost. Yes Iverson sucked too ( same discussion applies with iverson, he should have went bezerk but he's dog sh*t ), but timmy is supposed to be better than shaq according to some people.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by Lebron23
HUh?? Michael Jordan averaged 20 ppg when they made Zone defense legal in the NBA. It's easier to score if all players play man to man defense instead of zone defense. Jordan would be a less talented version of Demar Derozan if he plays in today's NBA.
it’s amazing that a human who can read and type relatively well, and who has been watching basketball for a long time, could type that and hit send, and expect anyone else to believe it, in the same way they themselves convinced themselves that they believed it. Incredible.
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National High School Star
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Or he’s just a little bit overrated, Allen Iverson was clearly that team’s best and most consistent player
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by WhiteKyrie
Or he’s just a little bit overrated, Allen Iverson was clearly that team’s best and most consistent player
Iverson was a bad choice for the team
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College superstar
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Iverson was a bad choice for the team
So was a lot of the team - more designed to promote the young stars and sell jerseys, if you ask me. No spacing - TD is usually surrounded by long distance shooters (with the exception of Parker) - Manu, Bowen, Horry/Bonner. Ray Allen would have been nice.
G 4 Allen Iverson (C) 29 – 7 June 1975 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in) Philadelphia 76ers United States
G 5 Stephon Marbury 27 – 20 February 1977 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in) New York Knicks United States
G 6 Dwyane Wade 22 – 17 January 1982 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Miami Heat United States
F 7 Carlos Boozer 22 – 20 November 1981 2.05 m (6 ft 9 in) Cleveland Cavaliers United States
F 8 Carmelo Anthony 20 – 29 May 1984 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Denver Nuggets United States
F 9 LeBron James 19 – 30 December 1984 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Cleveland Cavaliers United States
C 10 Emeka Okafor 21 – 28 September 1982 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Charlotte Bobcats United States
F 11 Shawn Marion 26 – 7 May 1978 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Phoenix Suns United States
C 12 Amar'e Stoudemire 21 – 16 November 1982 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Phoenix Suns United States
F 13 Tim Duncan (C) 28 – 25 April 1976 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) San Antonio Spurs United States
F 14 Lamar Odom 24 – 6 November 1979 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Miami Heat United States
G 15 Richard Jefferson 24 – 21 June 1980 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) New Jersey
Last edited by rmt; 03-19-2023 at 11:51 PM.
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National High School Star
Re: Tim Duncan struggled in the 2004 Olympics because of defensive 3 seconds rules
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Iverson was a bad choice for the team
No he wasn’t. He was awesome the summer before with the dominant 2003 squad. Duncan and the rest of some of the pieces weren’t remotely good fits. Duncan was putrid.
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