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    Default Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    I think he'll need to be a dominant scorer at times to win.

    He'll elevate Porter Jr. and Gordon more by taking defensive attention away from them, rather than deferring to them.

    The West will be won by Denver or Memphis.. Lakers looked real good last night but unlike an expert jumpshooter (Curry, KD, MJ) Lebron's skillset cannot be simply ADDED on top of the current lineup without subtraction/decline from current players.. If AD is the boss and Lebron is a good little 2nd or 3rd option, then the Lakers have equity in the West
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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    more about defense with that team

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    more about defense with that team

    None of the Western teams are good at defense except maybe Memphis

    And the Nuggets' offense is what can dictate flow and wear opponents down (which lessens the Nuggets' defensive requirements)...But it's a dominant Jokic that will accomplish this and have opposing defenses scrambling, on-their-heels and changing gameplans mid-game... All of this takes away from the opponents' capacity to go off offensively.. It's an attrition battle and only a dominant Joker will win it for his team.
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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    None of the Western teams are good at defense except maybe Memphis

    And the Nuggets' offense is what can dictate flow and wear opponents down (which lessens the Nuggets' defensive requirements)...But it's a dominant Jokic that will accomplish this and have opposing defenses scrambling, on-their-heels and changing gameplans mid-game... All this takes away from the opponents' capacity to go off offensively.. It's an attrition battle and only a dominant Joker will win it for his team.
    not sure he can do it. He's got more the mindset of Stockton, Garnett, Webber. Too unselfish

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    OP thinks Shaq was a better defender than peak Walton.

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    not sure he can do it. He's got more the mindset of Stockton, Garnett, Webber. Too unselfish

    That's a good way to look at it imo..

    The 10-assist or passing style needs a dominant scorer to pass to in the playoffs like a Kareem or Wade or AD... And Nash was probably gonna sneak through with Amare that one year but there was a suspension.

    Unfortunately, Jokic doesn't have a Kareem, AD or Amare - HE must be that type of scorer when needed in these playoffs.. The passing style of play is just a regular season brand without the dominant scorer to pass to in the playoffs, so Joker must be that guy (scorer) when needed (2nd half and down stretch.... or to keep it close in 1st half vs fast-starting opponent).

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lakers looked real good last night but unlike an expert jumpshooter (Curry, KD, MJ) Lebron's skillset cannot be simply ADDED on top of the current lineup without subtraction/decline from current players.. If AD is the boss and Lebron is a good little 2nd or 3rd option, then the Lakers have equity in the West
    post of the year

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    OP thinks Shaq was a better defender than peak Walton.
    Nobody is more defensive than Shaq...well maybe Shaq fans.

    For me it's less is Jokic going to win the West and more is Jokic going to win two playoff series cause I think we are going to see a number of upsets in the West.

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    OP has never seen Jokic play

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    OP is a insidehoops legend just like Lebron23

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Jokic will need to play at a level higher than 96-98 MJ in order to win the conference

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    jokic has to bring his A++ game to the playoff's ... otherwise they get bumped.

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    Default Re: Who thinks Jokic can win West by averaging less than 25 and passing to teammates

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    OP has never seen Jokic play
    OP has never seen Jokic play in the playoffs

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