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03-25-2023, 11:44 PM
#136
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
2 best lineups with Conley and all 3 with Conley over +4
Dlo obviously was their biggest problem
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03-25-2023, 11:50 PM
#137
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Manny's MVP is -.6 this year with Cleveland! They are better with him than without him. Big surprise
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03-25-2023, 11:55 PM
#138
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Garland +5.4
Allen + 3.5
Mobley + .4
Garland and Allen are Gobert/Conley lite. Looks like they better talk to New York in the off season and get them some size at the 2
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03-26-2023, 12:05 AM
#139
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Dlo -3.5
Naz -6.6
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03-26-2023, 12:16 AM
#140
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
The legendary Carlos Boozer had two years with the Jazz where they were better with him on the court and one of those was .1
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03-26-2023, 07:40 AM
#141
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
You realize based off the on/off stat you are using Rudy isn't even a top 5 player on his own team
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03-26-2023, 08:27 AM
#142
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Manny98
You realize based off the on/off stat you are using Rudy isn't even a top 5 player on his own team
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you realize Mitchell's team continues to be worse with him on the floor than off of it?
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03-26-2023, 08:45 AM
#143
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
you realize Mitchell's team continues to be worse with him on the floor than off of it?
Mitchell is a massive positive in every other impact stats so no
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03-26-2023, 08:54 AM
#144
Cancer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
I’m only taking Deron Williams, Tony Parker and Chauncey over Rondo. Rondo from 2010-2012 was arguably the best PG in the league for stretches.
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03-26-2023, 08:56 AM
#145
... on a leash
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Genuinely curious...
Why do you think Rudy has made such a small impact on the Wolves this year?
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
haven't seen them play. Conley says they use him different. Tons of injuries. Dlo cancerous. Edwards never played with a rim runner which is hard to imagine
"You will have to ask someone else"
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03-26-2023, 12:14 PM
#146
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Manny98
Mitchell is a massive positive in every other impact stats so no
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every other one except when he's on the court they are worse. Through all the struggles and talk of Minnesota this year Gobert is still a positive despite having to play with Russell and Naz(instead of Towns)
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03-26-2023, 12:36 PM
#147
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
every other one except when he's on the court they are worse. Through all the struggles and talk of Minnesota this year Gobert is still a positive despite having to play with Russell and Naz(instead of Towns)
They are not worse when he's on the court, on/off is such a basic way of measuring a players impact a d doesn't take into account difficulty of lineups playing/ the players you are on the court with and so many other things
7-3 carry on
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03-26-2023, 12:53 PM
#148
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Manny98
They are not worse when he's on the court, on/off is such a basic way of measuring a players impact a d doesn't take into account difficulty of lineups playing/ the players you are on the court with and so many other things
7-3 carry on
when it benefits you it's a great stat. But now that it looks bad for your boy it's basic. Garland, Allen and Mobley are all + so how could he be so bad despite being on the court with them? Why doesn't Gobert playing with Naz, Russell etc. matter when trolling him despite him still being a positive? 10 games is all you have. Really pathetic
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03-26-2023, 12:58 PM
#149
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
You're acting like the stat is the be all end all for measuring a players impact when even the people who created advanced stats admit they're heavily flawed and should be taken with a grain of salt
For example your hero is the 6th best player on his own team based on that stat, but you would laugh in my face if someone said that Jaden McDaniels is better than Gobert
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03-26-2023, 01:01 PM
#150
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Give me an idea of where you rank prime Rondo as a point guard.
Originally Posted by Manny98
You're acting like the stat is the be all end all for measuring a players impact when even the people who created advanced stats admit they're heavily flawed and should be taken with a grain of salt
For example your hero is the 6th best player on his own team based on that stat, but you would laugh in my face if someone said that Jaden McDaniels is better than Gobert
I don't think it's the end all. Just using what was one of your go to's before it made Mitchell and Naz look bad. Just like you love +/- until it doesn't support your trolling and it's ignored again
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