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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
Wow 1998 was the year that Shawn Kemp led Zydrunas to the playoffs, while Lebron was lottery with the all-star version of Zydrunas in 2004 and 2005.
Then Kemp averaged 26/10 vs Indiana compared to 16 on 39% for Pippen, whose horrific performance nearly caused a massive upset loss for the Bulls.
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by Hey Yo
He only won 1 title with the franchise that drafted him and that after he left in 11 years.
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
He only won 1 title with the franchise that drafted him and that after he left in 11 years.
And that was after promising no less than 8 titles for the Heat.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
Mitchell putting Cleveland back on the map
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
He only won 1 title with the franchise that drafted him and that after he left in 11 years.
To be fair, everyone knows that Kyrie won the chip for the Cavs
Lebron was a beta
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
Crazy, no one will ever accomplish what lebron did.
Cavs were a 33-49 team, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring.
Lakers were 26-52, then 35-47, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring too.
Lebron takes on the worst teams in history and carries them to gold, never seen before. Insane what the dude is capable of.
Other guys like KD have to join 70+ winning teams and now a 60+ winning team to even try.
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by Nb1
Crazy, no one will ever accomplish what lebron did.
Cavs were a 33-49 team, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring.
Lakers were 26-52, then 35-47, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring too.
Lebron takes on the worst teams in history and carries them to gold, never seen before. Insane what the dude is capable of.
Other guys like KD have to join 70+ winning teams and now a 60+ winning team to even try.
So we're ignoring context now?
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Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by Nb1
Crazy, no one will ever accomplish what lebron did.
Cavs were a 33-49 team, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring.
Lakers were 26-52, then 35-47, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring too.
Lebron takes on the worst teams in history and carries them to gold, never seen before. Insane what the dude is capable of.
Other guys like KD have to join 70+ winning teams and now a 60+ winning team to even try.
What about in 2011 when he stacked the deck but got outscored in the Finals by a bench player?
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I rule the local playground
Re: Cavs make the playoffs for first time without LeBron, since 1998
 Originally Posted by Nb1
Crazy, no one will ever accomplish what lebron did.
Cavs were a 33-49 team, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring.
Lakers were 26-52, then 35-47, then he came and 1 season later got them a ring too.
Lebron takes on the worst teams in history and carries them to gold, never seen before. Insane what the dude is capable of.
Other guys like KD have to join 70+ winning teams and now a 60+ winning team to even try.
Nice try Kid
Lakers was 35-47 with Lebron, once AD came he got Lebron a ring
Cavs was a lottery team, drafted Lebron and still continue to miss the playoff for the next 2 years
Ledeadweight
Lebron had to join Wade Miami, Kyrie Love Cavs, and AD lakers to get his rings.
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