Consistent GOAT criteria

[kawhileonard2]

He was MVP 5x. If they handed out FMVPs, he would have about 5 as well. 11+ 5 + 5 = 21.

How about DPOY? That's a major award too. If they handed those out, Russell would have a lot.

By your metric, Horry is better than Olajuwon.

He still doesn't have any.

[basketballcat]

Let's try this.

Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point

Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point

Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points

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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs

So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.

[kawhileonard2]

Let's try this.

Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point

Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point

Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points

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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs

So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.

We can't assume Russell has 5 because he has 0. Let's assume all others only had to win 2 series to win a title and joined a ROY and MVP as well how many titles in an eight team league? See how that works?

[basketballcat]

We can't assume Russell has 5 because he has 0. Let's assume all others only had to win 2 series to win a title and joined a ROY and MVP as well how many titles in an eight team league? See how that works?

I touched on quality of rings on my OP.

[Axe]

You're trying way too hard now op, i suggest you cut it out.

[warriorfan]

first criteria - can’t be out scored by an aging, zero time all star, undersized shooting guard on the biggest stage

[Full Court]

I touched on quality of rings on my OP.

Well, GoatTits, if you were serious about ring quality then you would admit that 2020 is the biggest joke of a ring of all time.


D E S P E R A T I O N

[Overdrive]

Let's try this.

Peak criteria:
FMVP: 1 point
Champ as a starter: 0.5 point, do not double count with FMVP
MVP: 1 point
DPOY: 1 point

Longevity criteria:
All NBA: 0.5 point, do not double count with MVP
All Defensive: 0.5 point, do not double count with DPOY
Top 5 all time in any of the 5 major stats: 1 point
Top 10 in any of the 5 major stats: 0.5 point

Winning:
Made playoffs: 0.1 points
Made Finals: 0.3 points

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FMVP: assume Russell has 5, as he had 5 MVPs

So, who is the GOAT? I honestly didn't do the maths.

More arbitrary BS from the no narratives guy.

[basketballcat]

More arbitrary BS from the no narratives guy.

If you want the quick and simple version: 11 rings. There, done.

[basketballcat]

first criteria - can’t be out scored by an aging, zero time all star, undersized shooting guard on the biggest stage

Ah yes, Terry Cummings

[basketballcat]

Well, GoatTits, if you were serious about ring quality then you would admit that 2020 is the biggest joke of a ring of all time.


D E S P E R A T I O N

Nah. It's the one where Payton held Pippen Lite to a pathetic 41.5 FG%. Kemp was as good as any player in that series.

[Overdrive]

If you want the quick and simple version: 11 rings. There, done.

So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. You on the other hand are desperate that Lebron could not be considered GOAT.

[basketballcat]

So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. You on the other hand are desperate that Lebron could not be considered GOAT.

So you think it hurts me that Russell could be considered GOAT? Quite the opposite. He IS the GOAT. Kareem or LeBron 2nd.