westbrook vs Irving

[Jasper]

people have stated Westbrook can muck up a team as soon as he gets on it.

Irving withe Mav's last 10 games 3-7

out of the playoffs right now.

[ImKobe]

I mean it's not like either of them have underperformed in their roles -- there are bigger issues with both of those teams. Can't blame them for injuries and poor roster management.

[rawimpact]

I mean it's not like either of them have underperformed in their roles -- there are bigger issues with both of those teams. Can't blame them for injuries and poor roster management.

I don't follow the Mavs but what other issues do they have?

Pre-trade I recall them doing pretty good... obviously they traded away key pieces for Irving but that's expected.

[ImKobe]

I don't follow the Mavs but what other issues do they have?

Pre-trade I recall them doing pretty good... obviously they traded away key pieces for Irving but that's expected.

Luka's been playing hurt and has been struggling mentally off the court + Irving is playing hurt himself though he's played up to his expectations overall. Mavs I believe were 3 - 1 with Kyrie while Luka was out. Their defense is the biggest issue and it's not like anyone expected Kyrie to fix that. The idea was that Kyrie + Luka & shooters would at least be enough offensively that they'd outscore most teams but that's hard to achieve if Luka isn't on the same level as he was in the first half of the season. Their lack of rebounding & rim protection is worse than anyone imagined as well, that's not really something they gave up in the trade, it's been a problem all season. Mcgee MLE singing was a complete bust as he's unplayable as well.

[Jasper]

mcgee and wood should be enough to board.

Last year wood was playing very well.. all most all-star calibur.

[imdaman99]

That Mavericks team is deeply flawed. Luka needs 4 great defenders around him to cover for his lack of playing any but that just leads to Luka being the only one capable of scoring. Not enough 3 and D guys around for him.

[HoopsNY]

Team chemistry takes time to build.

[bizil]

Luka and Kyrie can work. The Mavs just gotta build the right squad around them. The thing is Kyrie could bounce BEFORE that get that chance. But Kyrie is the most SKILLED scorer ever among PG's. And he's a score first PG anyway. So he's JUST FINE playing off ball.

[Phoenix]

Luka and Kyrie can work. The Mavs just gotta build the right squad around them. The thing is Kyrie could bounce BEFORE that get that chance. But Kyrie is the most SKILLED scorer ever among PG's. And he's a score first PG anyway. So he's JUST FINE playing off ball.

I'll hold judgement until the season ends but IMO this has 'half season rental' all over it.

[Manny98]

Luka and Kyrie can work. The Mavs just gotta build the right squad around them. The thing is Kyrie could bounce BEFORE that get that chance. But Kyrie is the most SKILLED scorer ever among PG's. And he's a score first PG anyway. So he's JUST FINE playing off ball.

Watching Dallas games, Luka is WAY to ball dominant to compliment, Kyrie to the point he may as well be a role player.

Luka works best with a bunch of 3+D role players around him rather than another star

Dallas play great when it's just Kyrie or just Luka but together they don't work whatsoever

[bizil]

I'll hold judgement until the season ends but IMO this has 'half season rental' all over it.

Yep I agree! For whatever reason, the Mavs NEVER land a superstar-perennial All Star type of free agent in the prime of their career. So they rolled the dice on Kyrie with the trade. Plus Kyrie is gonna look at the landscape and feel he can be the missing piece for a squad ready to win a chip.

[Phoenix]

Yep I agree! For whatever reason, the Mavs NEVER land a superstar-perennial All Star type of free agent in the prime of their career. So they rolled the dice on Kyrie with the trade. Plus Kyrie is gonna look at the landscape and feel he can be the missing piece for a squad ready to win a chip.

Both he and D'Angelo Russell are free agents after this season. It's quite possible D'Angelo's stay in LA is just as brief and well.....you see where I'm going with that.

[kawhileonard2]

Westbrook won league mvp and is the all time leader in triple doubles.

[Jasper]

I'll hold judgement until the season ends but IMO this has 'half season rental' all over it.

I stated that when the trade occurred. Either KD comes to Mav's or Irving goes to the Suns.
Well we know now that Irving will be a Sun.

[WhiteKyrie]

I mean it's not like either of them have underperformed in their roles -- there are bigger issues with both of those teams. Can't blame them for injuries and poor roster management.

No defense or rebounding for Dallas. Minimal time with Kyrie and Luka together and a lot of the games they lost were literally like less than 5.