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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by tpols
Nuggets and Grizzlies who would end up as the 1 and 2 seed this year with the same teams, Lukas Mavs who destroyed the loaded suns, and a super stacked and healthy Celtics team isn't a weak path.
An opposing player having a down series doesn't invalidate a ring. Does Lebrons 2016 ring not count because curry and klay shit the bed in the Finals? Does Dirks 2011 ring not coun t because lebron shit the bed in the Finals? Of course you would never admit that, but apply hypocritical rationale towards steph curry because you don't like him. The man lit up the #1 defense when his team was on the ropes. 100% respectable ring.
The Mavs are a hot/cold team relying on shots going in next to luka. They would have been a complete outlier title winner. And come WCF time, you should be facing title contenders.
Its just a fact that the Mavs did not have the buid or roster of any championship team ever.
Nuggets were injured thats not a serious take.
Grizzies are a nice team, but theyve never done anything of note in the postseason and are ceary not a tite contender either.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
The Mavs are a hot/cold team relying on shots going in next to luka. They would have been a complete outlier title winner. And come WCF time, you should be facing title contenders.
Its just a fact that the Mavs did not have the buid or roster of any championship team ever.
Nuggets were injured thats not a serious take.
Grizzies are a nice team, but theyve never done anything of note in the postseason and are ceary not a tite contender either.
Yea... and you didn't mention the Celtics who are a top contender this year and last year. Your excuse for that is Tatum not playing well but if we apply that logic to your favorite players their best achievements would be canceled lol.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by tpols
Yea... and you didn't mention the Celtics who are a top contender this year and last year. Your excuse for that is Tatum not playing well but if we apply that logic to your favorite players their best achievements would be canceled lol.
The Celtics were/are an elite team, but considering they were the only elite team faced, it wasnt really convincing considering it seemed like the entire team forgot how to play offense. Tatum shit the bed but the whole offense looked out of sync, they were crumbling big time. It was not finals worthy.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
The Mavs are a hot/cold team relying on shots going in next to luka. They would have been a complete outlier title winner. And come WCF time, you should be facing title contenders.
Its just a fact that the Mavs did not have the buid or roster of any championship team ever.
Nuggets were injured thats not a serious take.
Grizzies are a nice team, but theyve never done anything of note in the postseason and are ceary not a tite contender either.
I don't think the Mavs were weak for a WCF opponent. They had guys like brunson, dinwiddie and bullock playing out of their minds. There is no championship team like them because of the unlikelihood those players keep up that level for 4 rounds. There are examples of teams like this in conference finals history though. A few players can get hot and it will transform a team from taken lightly into a threat
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
The Celtics were/are an elite team, but considering they were the only elite team faced, it wasnt really convincing considering it seemed like the entire team forgot how to play offense. Tatum shit the bed but the whole offense looked out of sync, they were crumbling big time. It was not finals worthy.
Again... apply that logic to your favorite players. LeBron used to face teams like the derozan raptors in the conference finals. A guy who in a stronger east now can't even make the playoffs. By your own logic that would invalidate all of your favorite players rings.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by tpols
Again... apply that logic to your favorite players. LeBron used to face teams like the derozan raptors in the conference finals. A guy who in a stronger east now can't even make the playoffs. By your own logic that would invalidate all of your favorite players rings.
why? if anything, time since has improved derozans and lowrys value. the raptors were one trade away from becoming champs and lebron usually played them in the 2nd round.
to add, the only time he beat them and won the chip was 2016.... 73-win warriors, you know.
not a whole lot of invalidating going on there.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
bro bron’s bubble chip was the worst…3.0 SRS rating teams with injuries
thread backfire. you played yourself
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
why? if anything, time since has improved derozans and lowrys value. the raptors were one trade away from becoming champs and lebron usually played them in the 2nd round.
to add, the only time he beat them and won the chip was 2016.... 73-win warriors, you know.
not a whole lot of invalidating going on there.
The Wizards swept the Derozan Raps in the playoffs one year.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
why? if anything, time since has improved derozans and lowrys value. the raptors were one trade away from becoming champs and lebron usually played them in the 2nd round.
to add, the only time he beat them and won the chip was 2016.... 73-win warriors, you know.
not a whole lot of invalidating going on there.
You really can't even admit those east paths were just as if not more weak? Now derozans 1 seed raptors were top comp in hindsight?
You're too much. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
You said the Celtics were elite but Tatums down performance invalidates them. Curry and Klay shit the bed just as badly in the 2016 Finals so how would that not invalidate the warriors in the same manner that you discredit the Celtics for?
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by tpols
You really can't even admit those east paths were just as if not more weak? Now derozans 1 seed raptors were top comp in hindsight?
You're too much. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
You said the Celtics were elite but Tatums down performance invalidates them. Curry and Klay shit the bed just as badly in the 2016 Finals so how would that not invalidate the warriors in the same manner that you discredit the Celtics for?
I know those east paths were weak, youre shifting goalposts now.
you said it would invalidate lebrons rings.
which one? its definitely not 2016 and the others make no sense.
celtics as a whole seemed to lost their head in the finals.
the warriors at least went up 3-1 and game 7 would always be close due to the nature of that game. so cavs had to play some ball and get 2 straight road wins to win it.
if you consider the celtics to have been elite, fine. but overall thats still a pretty weak run.
the team isnt that different this year. and look at them getting punked by the kings.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
the team isnt that different this year. and look at them getting punked by the kings.
This year's Ws won 9 fewer games than last year's team and was epically bad on the road in spite of Klay being much more effective this season.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by dankok8
If I had to make a list of five weakest title runs post-merger:
1978 Bullets
1979 Sonics
2020 Lakers
2021 Bucks
2022 Warriors
1987 Lakers path to the Finals were 3 teams with a combined record of 118-127.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by tontoz
This year's Ws won 9 fewer games than last year's team and was epically bad on the road in spite of Klay being much more effective this season.
that coud easily be down to teams being better though. take the lakers alone who handed GSW 3 or 4 losses this season.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
that coud easily be down to teams being better though. take the lakers alone who handed GSW 3 or 4 losses this season.
Last year the West had 4 teams that won at least 52 games. This season there was only 1. Denver has the top seed with a point differential of only 3.3. Last season there were 4 teams in the West that had point differentials much better than that. Dallas had a 3.3 differential as the 4 seed last season.
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Re: Did the Warriors simply take advantage of a weak path last year?
The last two rings by the Warriors/Bucks have been relatively weak. Bucks ring was probably the weakest because literally all of their opponents had injuries to their best players.
This year could potentially be even weaker, but we'll see.
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