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If Jokic wins with normal/organic roster & dominant scoring/advanced stats, then...
he's already better than the Lebron in the all-time rankings.
This season will bump Lebron down the rankings because it taught everyone that Lebron isn't capable of being a dominant off-ball player (low time of possession player) and his normally-dominant stat lines don't translate when playing off-ball.
This matters because if he could dominate off-ball with 30 ppg instead of a garbage 20 ppg, these Lakers would be dominant favorites and a shoe-in for the title.. The off-ball play has allowed Reaves and company to play to capacity, so the only thing missing is Lebron adding 30 ppg on top of what is already there via off-ball play and expert jumpshoting skill - but again, he can only contribute a weak 22 ppg with garbage efficiency.
To summarize - if Jokic wins this year, he will prove superior to Lebron based on stats (advanced metrics) and also having a skillset that needs less help to win, aka a skillset that doesn't impose spot-up roles and therefore yields the teammate development, chemistry, and strategic capacity/coaching required to win with less supporting talent (organically).
Last edited by 3ba11; 05-06-2023 at 07:08 PM.
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The Bearded Menace
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Embiid > Jokic
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Banned
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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I purposely brought up his 2013 post from another site so he could make another thread like this. I knew it would upset him.
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The Bearded Menace
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Lmfao into the freaking toilet once more.
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NBA Legend
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How would a season at age 38 bump anyone down in the all time rankings? That makes no sense. Most guys are already retired by 38.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
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I found it curious the amount of leeway 3nutball was given this week.
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Austin Reaves Fam
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this kid 3ball is literally mentally ill
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National High School Star
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He jumps ahead of a number of players...not Lebron that's dumb
Wade - yes
Harden - yes
Durant - yes
Barry - yes
Ewing - yes
Robinson - yes
Frazier - yes
Iverson - yes
Kidd - yes
Thomas - yes
Shaq - no
Baylor - no
Barkley - no
Giannis - no
CPIII - no
Havlicek - no
Dirk - no
Garnett - no
Dr. J - no
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