If Lebron > MJ despite less rings & accolade, then KD can be > Lebron too

[3ba11]

I value teammate development, chemistry, strategic capacity/coaching and team ceiling/Finals record, so Durant will be over Lebron in my book after he wins his 3rd chip next year, and I might put him above Lebron already because the MJ/Lebron debate shows that ring count and accolades don't matter.

Durant helped develop Westbrick, which Lebron could never do, and Durant's skillset allowed the highest team ceiling possibly ever in 2017 and 2018 - a Luka or Lebron-style ball-dominator would've prevented the GOAT brand of ball and team celling that Durant's skillset allowed.. Durant enhances great supporting talent, while Lebron destroys teammates and needs more help... TLDR: KD > Lebron

[SATAN]

Horry>MJ

[Real Men Wear Green]

OP just proved that Durant is better than Jordan. Well done.

[3ba11]

OP just proved that Durant is better than Jordan. Well done.

If someone can use whatever subjective preference they like to put Lebron over Jordan despite far less rings or accolade, than it isn't wrong to put KD over Lebron for whatever reason anyone wants..

Lebron fans put him over Jordan because they think it's goat to need 7 games to win a Finals with a super-team no less, so I put KD over Lebron for my own reasons that happen to align with reality - KD's expert jumpshooting skillset could get 50 while the ball moves, so he was better at developing teammates, chemistry and strategic capacity/coaching, thereby yielding higher team ceilings/Finals records..

KD developed Westbrook and made the Finals with him, which Lebron could never do.. So he's better than Lebron, which PPG also reflects in a serious way.. KD can get a bucket, while Lebron must ponder and dribble before the stiff-arm.. No wonder this simpleton brand of ball couldn't win the East with homecourt and needed to form super-teams, yet still had perennial underdogs regardless of cast.

[ShawkFactory]

If someone can use whatever subjective preference they like to put Lebron over Jordan despite far less rings or accolade, than it isn't wrong to put KD over Lebron for whatever reason anyone wants..
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You’ve proven time and time again that people can say anything using whatever reasoning they want. That’s like your thing.

[Axe]

OP just proved that Durant is better than Jordan. Well done.

Oof.

[3ba11]

You’ve proven time and time again that people can say anything using whatever reasoning they want. That’s like your thing.

I'm not the one saying that the loser is infact the winner and better player.. You are

I'm not the one trying to say that winning doesn't matter.. You are

I'm saying that winning matters and you're saying this is somehow unique reasoning or whatever.. It's sheer denial and delusion on your part. But carry on

[ShawkFactory]

I'm not the one saying that the loser is infact the winner and better player.. You are

I'm not the one trying to say that winning doesn't matter.. You are

I'm saying that winning matters and you're saying this is somehow unique reasoning or whatever

When?

[3ba11]

When?

You defend the general notion that Lebron could be GOAT despite half the winning or MVP frequency as MJ (aka far less winning and accolade)

Since you're using subjective preference to explain away Lebron's winning and accolade deficit, then I can do the same for Durant..

And I like my arguments, aka KD's goat jumpshooting, scoring and brand of ball or capacity for high team ceiling, etc, etc.

[ShawkFactory]

You defend the general notion that Lebron could be GOAT despite half the winning or MVP frequency as MJ (aka far less winning and accolade)

Since you're using subjective preference to explain away Lebron's winning and accolade deficit, then I can do the same for Durant..

And I like my arguments, aka KD's goat jumpshooting, scoring and brand of ball or capacity for high team ceiling, etc, etc.

When was that? I’ve been on here a little while now, sure you could find a quote or something.

[3ba11]

When was that? I’ve been on here a little while now, sure you could find a quote or something.

You argue against my claims that Lebron's skillset has bad chemistry, fits, teammate development, strategic capacity/coaching and therefore team ceilings/Finals records.. You argue against these claims.. And if you're right and Lebron's skillset infact allows great chemistry, teammate development, fits, and strategic capacity/coaching, then he's GOAT and simply got uniquely unlucky each time he lost..

So you do argue for Lebron as GOAT, by arguing against my claims and arguments that his weak brand of ball inhibits his winning

[ShawkFactory]

You argue against my claims that Lebron's skillset has bad chemistry, fits, teammate development, strategic capacity/coaching and therefore team ceilings/Finals records.. You argue against these claims.. And if you're right and Lebron's skillset infact allows great chemistry, teammate development, fits, and strategic capacity/coaching, then he's GOAT and simply got uniquely unlucky each time he lost..

So you do argue for Lebron as GOAT, by arguing against my claims and arguments.

Jesus Christ

[And1AllDay]

8000 playofff pts
40,000 reg szn pts

/get worked

[Axe]

Peja > op

[NBAGOAT]

has luka or lebron ever been on a team as talented and well fitting as the 17-18 warriors? there is maybe 1-2 other star in nba history who has been on a team like that(83 sixers) so that claim is purely hypothetical. I personally dont think prime lebron would destroy curry, klay, and dray, the fit is really good better than on paper than it was with kd. I'm throwing out hypotheticals too but think warriors fans would agree