MJ is at least 3 times richer than Lebron despite being out of public eye for 20 yrs

[3ba11]

it's always been a fake debate.. If it was a real debate, we would be comparing Lebron's 3-peat(s) with the Cavs, Heat or Lakers to Jordan's 3-peats..

But instead, Lebron fans must make excuses for his vastly inferior winning and performance/accolade (half the ring or MVP frequency), or invent myths to inflate his greatness:

1) He makes everyone better (many teammates cratered alongside him and were reduced to spot-up roles, aka lower APG and higher assisted rate for most teammates - these spot-up roles never developed a single young player to significant producer in 20 years, aka zero teammate development in 2 decades)

2) He has all-time bball IQ (never played the best brand of ball like Spurs, Warriors, Nuggets, or Mavs and had bad fits with many teammates).

3) He "plays 5 positions" (bad fits with many teammates disprove this, along with a point guard hold-time and assisted rate)

4) He carries teams to the Finals (he only won 45 games in Year 5 before getting all-star spacing in 2009 that his stiff-arm needs - he still couldn't win East with homecourt in 09/10, so he gave up and teamed up with opponents thereafter.. Meanwhile, Kyrie played 12 of 14 games in 15' East Playoffs, while Love was a rare all-star sidekick in the 18' East, so the only time Lebron took a 1-star team to the Finals was when everyone else was doing it like Iverson, Kidd, or Dwight).

[Carbine]

Give Lebron another 20 years to build his wealth and he will eclipse Jordan easily.

[3ba11]

Give Lebron another 20 years to build his wealth and he will eclipse Jordan easily.

MJ has a 3 billion headstart to make that money work for him - it's called compound interest - Lebron can NEVER catch the GOAT...

And MJ did it all organically - set the trend and standard that everyone follows

[RRR3]

You've been reduced to comparing their incomes

[Axe]

[jlip]

Yeah. Sure. MJ is "out of the public eye".

[Real Men Wear Green]

If you manage to approach billionaire status before the age of 40 after growing up homeless you've done extremely well for yourself. I guarantee Lebron james has never made a thread about OP.

[3ba11]

You've been reduced to comparing their incomes

Lebron's manufactured brand won't stand the test of time, while MJ's organic behemoth has an unshakeable foundation of lottery team to goat dynasty (rags-to-riches) - an authentic hard grind and overcoming obstacles - and underdog story - no team-ups to stack the deck and cheat code.. that's why MJ is considered a winner, while people don't refer to Lebron in the same way because he simply isn't associated with it

[RRR3]

Lebron's manufactured brand won't stand the test of time, while MJ's organic behemoth has an unshakeable foundation of lottery team to goat dynasty (rags-to-riches) - an authentic hard grind and overcoming obstacles - and underdog story - no team-ups to stack the deck and cheat code.. that's why MJ is considered a winner, while people don't refer to Lebron in the same way because he simply isn't associated with it

Guess LeBron will have to settle for being consensus top 2 all time.

[3ba11]

If you manage to approach billionaire status before the age of 40 after growing up homeless you've done extremely well for yourself. I guarantee Lebron james has never made a thread about OP.

Lebron moved into the community leader's house at 10 years old (coach's house) and was coddled thereafter and viewed as the chosen one - he wasn't even allowed to fight on the blacktop as his friends would jump in to protect the future star.. That's why we never saw him get in fisticuiffs for 20 years in the NBA - he's literally never been in a fight and expects to be coddled..

Like, I get that he didn't have a Dad or whatever, but being a generational athlete easily overcomes that by a mile.. My own Dad would be willing to give me up if he knew that I would have 1 billion and generational wealth - any sane Dad would want that for their seed and family tree.. If this was 1970, then maybe there's a small chance that he would be like Earl Manigault or something and never get discovered, but not in the modern era.

After being coddled throughout high school and given Hummers, Lebron was given generational wealth before having to prove himself on the professional court, so there was no real pressure - he was good either way and was able to set up his empire before taking a single NBA dribble...

Then he was allowed to brazenly team up with opponents (talent-based winning) after failing to win the conference with homecourt, aka he's just a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy) that never learned how to actually win and play effective basketball/chemistry, aka organic - it's a continuation of his AAU-deck-stacking days.

So he's the most coddled star ever and never reached expectation because no one expected rookie Lebron to eventually give up and team up with opponents thereafter.. Giving up on competing and simply teaming up with opponents or hand-picking the preseason favorite is the definition of failing expectation.. Certainly his perennial underdog status with superteams, or falling from the on-paper favorite (preseason favorite) to underdog once the weak chemistry is revealed, or never winning 60 games with super-teams from 2011-2017 except once - all of this is an underachievement of the expectation.

[3ba11]

Guess LeBron will have to settle for being consensus top 2 all time.

lol.. Numerous guys will win 3+ chips like KD, Joker, Giannis and Kawhi, so all of these guys will eventually be compared to Lebron and make his ranking vague, aka top 5 or 10 instead of #2

this is intuitive.. And his continued losing each year and statistical decline/getting carried won't help things.

[RRR3]

lol.. Numerous guys will win 3+ chips like KD, Joker, Giannis and Kawhi, so all of these guys will eventually be compared to Lebron and make his ranking vague, aka top 5 or 10 instead of #2

this is intuitive.. And his continued losing each year and statistical decline/getting carried won't help things.

No matter who surpasses LeBron in the future, he'll always be ahead of your real hero Kobe. And that tears you up inside.

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron's manufactured brand won't stand the test of time, while MJ's organic behemoth has an unshakeable foundation of lottery team to goat dynasty (rags-to-riches) - an authentic hard grind and overcoming obstacles - and underdog story - no team-ups to stack the deck and cheat code.. that's why MJ is considered a winner, while people don't refer to Lebron in the same way because he simply isn't associated with it

Every brand is manufactured. Literally.

The dictionary definition of “brand” is: a type of product manufactured by a particular company under a particular name.

[3ba11]

Every brand is manufactured. Literally.

The dictionary definition of “brand” is: a type of product manufactured by a particular company under a particular name.

Instead of persevering after failing to win the conference, Lebron put the top 3 first options in the conference on 1 team - that's the definition of manufacturing a resume and the brand follows the fake resume.. He literally failed to win and then teamed up with opponents - that's manufacturing a resume and brand.. MJ didn't do that and neither did Curry - these guys made their own brand out of nothing but organic winning and era-changing basketball (best brand of their era) - they didn't team up with opponents to manufacture a fake resume and brand.

[Kblaze8855]

Lebron has a good chance to be a major owner of the Vegas expansion. Entirely possible it drives his worth up similar to Jordan. Wouldn’t be shocking.