So where we ranking Jamal Murray going into next season?

[Full Court]

He's one of the best second options in the league, if not the very best.

However, I don't know that he has what it takes to lead a team to a finals without a Jokic running things. For that reason I see him as elite, but one tier lower than the Jokics and Giannises. His potential is probably Scottie Pippen.

[RRR3]

Idk he’s a completely different player in the playoffs than he is in the regular season so which version of him are you ranking?

[elementally morale]

Idk he’s a completely different player in the playoffs than he is in the regular season so which version of him are you ranking?

Playoffs, obviously. He is currently as good as his prolonged ceiling is. A more than 20 game sample is enough. As for the all time greats you remember mostly playoffs anyway.

[Boki4MVP]

Prime Kevin Martin

[90sgoat]

He's the Tony Parker to Jokic.

Like Parker, in the right fit, he is a top 5 player at his position, but without his Duncan, he might only be a top 20.

[Carbine]

He's the Tony Parker to Jokic.

Like Parker, in the right fit, he is a top 5 player at his position, but without his Duncan, he might only be a top 20.

Murray wouldn't go from a top 5 PG to 20 without Jokic.

If anything, with more shots and being "the man" his stats would increase and make him "better"

20th ranked PG is like Mike Conley. He is obviously much better right now than Conley regardless of Jokic or not.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ignoring the durability aspect I put his impact on par with Cav Kyrie Irving.

[ShawkFactory]

Murray wouldn't go from a top 5 PG to 20 without Jokic.

If anything, with more shots and being "the man" his stats would increase and make him "better"

20th ranked PG is like Mike Conley. He is obviously much better right now than Conley regardless of Jokic or not.

I'm not so sure. Playing with Jokic, like Duncan, is not going to really affect the number of shots you get. Neither need to feed their own offensive game to have an impact. Without Jokic maybe he gets an extra couple shots but a lot of them would be lower quality so the net effect wouldn't be much different IMO.

[Carbine]

It's just a numbers game. Jokic shot distribution would go somewhere, with Murray and MPJ being the two players taking up half of those looks.

The team would be far worse and he would be big numbers no winning guard.

[ShawkFactory]

I mean yea maybe he goes from 22-23 to 25-26 ppg. But the efficiency drop plus the team being way worse will make that mean nothing to anyone. People would probably think worse of him actually.