LeBron at 38 yrs old was better offensively than first team all nba Jayson Tatum.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What?

Year in year out since 2012 LeBron has proven himself to be the best playoff performer, he wasn't close to 100% this year and still manhandled the Grizzlies and the defending champs en route to the conference finals

Tatum on the other hand shat the bed against the Warriors in the finals and was vastly outplayed by Jimmy Butler 2 years in a row in the ECF and disappeared from the face of the earth in game 7

Give me LeBron even at his current age

Didn't know we were supposed to factor in stuff from over a decade ago when evaluating players right now... largely because that doesn't make sense. This isn't about who had had the better career. Tatum got the conference playoff mvp award after he got so badly outplayed by butler in 2022. This year's Game 7 was the product of him turning his ankle but he still stayed in the game. Please let me know how many 50 point games James had last postseason.

[Manny98]

Didn't know we were supposed to factor in stuff from over a decade ago when evaluating players right now... largely because that doesn't make sense. This isn't about who had had the better career. Tatum got the conference playoff mvp award after he got so badly outplayed by butler in 2022. This year's Game 7 was the product of him turning his ankle but he still stayed in the game. Please let me know how many 50 point games James had last postseason.

I don't care about no statpadded 50 point game where half of his points came when the game was already over

It's close but I'd rather have LeBron on my team, just way more reliable when It counts

You can go with your boy Tatum and continue to get let down year after year

[Real Men Wear Green]

I don't care about no statpadded 50 point game where half of his points came when the game was already over

It's close but I'd rather have LeBron on my team, just way more reliable when It counts

You can go with your boy Tatum and continue to get let down year after year

Sure let's pretend that James team wasn't spot this season it's cool. Ignore the conference playoff mvp award and act like the guy with the record for game 7 and play-in game points is a choker.

[Manny98]

Sure let's pretend that James team wasn't spot this season it's cool. Ignore the conference playoff mvp award and act like the guy with the record for game 7 and play-in game points is a choker.

Where was Mr Game 7 vs Miami this year

[Real Men Wear Green]

Even you know he turned his ankle. Guess the Nets have left you with nothing to do but troll.

[Johnny32]

This thread isn't about LeBron vs Tatum...bron wins that all day, every day, including currently. What this topic is about though is how bad Miguel Jordan was at 38...both compared to the real goat, LeBron, and his peers at the time.

[Real Men Wear Green]

This thread isn't about LeBron vs Tatum...bron wins that all day, every day, including currently. What this topic is about though is how bad Miguel Jordan was at 38...both compared to the real goat, LeBron, and his peers at the time.

And yet somehow Tatum got first team AllNBA over him. Maybe you should talk to the voters and explain to them that missing 27 games doesn't matter.

[Manny98]

Even you know he turned his ankle. Guess the Nets have left you with nothing to do but troll.

Did he "roll" his ankle when he shot a putrid 36% against the Warriors and shatter the turnover record

[Manny98]

And yet somehow Tatum got first team AllNBA over him. Maybe you should talk to the voters and explain to them that missing 27 games doesn't matter.

And somehow got outplayed by Jimmy Butler two years in a row

Regular season awards don't mean shit, look at the MVP

[Real Men Wear Green]

Did he "roll" his ankle when he shot a putrid 36% against the Warriors and shatter the turnover record

The finals was bad. But James hasn't dominated a playoff to get his team to the finals since 2020. He's no longer the caliber of player that can carry a team and instead is a guy that needs his minutes managed to hopefully contribute to a playoff run. You may not realize this but he's 39. No one carries a team at age 39.

[Real Men Wear Green]

And somehow got outplayed by Jimmy Butler two years in a row

Regular season awards don't mean shit, look at the MVP

Jokic is a two time MVP Giannis has MVPs Embiid is the current MVP... these are probably the three best players in the NBA. You aren't making sense here.

[Manny98]

The finals was bad. But James hasn't dominated a playoff to get his team to the finals since 2020. He's no longer the caliber of player that can carry a team and instead is a guy that needs his minutes managed to hopefully contribute to a playoff run. You may not realize this but he's 39. No one carries a team at age 39.

Neither LeBron or Tatum are "carrying" teams

But in a big playoff game LeBron is more reliable, Tatum has too many 0-8 from 3 with 6 turnover games for my liking

[Manny98]

Jokic is a two time MVP Giannis has MVPs Embiid is the current MVP... these are probably the three best players in the NBA. You aren't making sense here.

Embiid won MVP yet consistently chokes and underperforms in the playoffs

[Real Men Wear Green]

Neither LeBron or Tatum are "carrying" teams

But in a big playoff game LeBron is more reliable, Tatum has too many 0-8 from 3 with 6 turnover games for my liking

Tatum scored the most points of of anyone in the NBA last season. Celtics would still be quality without him but that demonstrates that he's the kind of player that can carry an offense for a while season. James missed 27 games. Simple stiff. Tatum has records for both play in as well as game 7 but you want to act like he's just a choker. He's not perfect but you're being stupid.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Embiid won MVP yet consistently chokes and underperforms in the playoffs

So you are saying that Embiid the MVP is not an elite player?