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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Ja Morant isn't better than Rondo.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Jason Kidd too high
Gary Payton too low
If you switched their places it would be more accurate
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Titles are overrated
Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Kerr, Alston, Fisher, Haper, Rubio, K. Smith, D'Angelo, J. Williams...
No Deron Williams or Rickey Green
As a fellow defense lover I know is old enough to remember him I’m surprised you laugh at Derek Harper.
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
As a fellow defense lover I know is old enough to remember him I’m surprised you laugh at Derek Harper.
Ron Harper. Wasn't a fan of Derek though
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
61 61 61
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
That's how I felt looking at Price & Jrue, I find it hard to believe they aren't at minimum top 50 point guards ever, though it's admittedly impossible to tell what criteria they're using here.
jrue is top 25 ... maybe based on stats/ but i will tak his stats an day.
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Jasper
duhhhhhhhhhhh
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Life goes on.
Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Ron Harper. Wasn't a fan of Derek though
at least he's not a bum tho haha.
Yeah, these lists are really weird. It's like they start naming names after awhile. Some of the ones that I thought were weird that weren't mentioned are...
Fkning Van Exel. That dude was hot trash and cost the Lakers every ****ING YEAR. He'd always get sonned by Stockton. He played PG and he could do some things, but he lacked what is necessary to be a PG. He's def not top 50. And that's top 50 with including people who aren't even PGs haha. w t actual.
Isiah Thomas like the little one, wat. Guys like Mookie and Muggsy and Damon Stoudy should be higher. Terrell Brandon. It's like they made their list then remembered all those guys existed and decided to add them in a block. Steve Kerr and D fish are def sus. There are 100, sure, but I'm sure if you gave me some time I could come up with 100 guys. There are some back ups that prol could be on there. Like I was talking about Tyus Jones in another thread. Who doesn't take him over Steve Kerr and D Fish? I know I would. Fish does have some moments, though, but he was like Kerr, a great performer in his position. It's not like if you are taking guys in an all time draft you want to pick them up to push PG for your team.
But yeah the real tragedy is the past 50 point when you see how many classic dudes are there like Kenny Anderson and the aforementioned ones. Abdul-Rauf. Even Doc and Avery, at least those guys were 'legit PGs.' They def seemed to run out of names and just start naming stuff. lol Coming in at 100... Rafer... and let's all be real, there's no way there are 99 PGs in NBA history better than him.
If you're gonna do a list, you should really do it well, and I'd love to see the write ups for these guys. Esp the Rafer one. Haha. I wonder how it feels to be 100. I bet dudes are calling him up. OH SHIT WE FORGOT RAFER.
There is def no consistent criteria. I can tell you that just by looking, and that's w/o knowing who all of those people are. There are like 3-4 dudes I dono who they are.
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Originally Posted by Jasper
jrue is top 25 ...
I dono bud haha.
-Smak
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by ILLsmak
at least he's not a bum tho haha.
Yeah, these lists are really weird. It's like they start naming names after awhile. Some of the ones that I thought were weird that weren't mentioned are...
Fkning Van Exel. That dude was hot trash and cost the Lakers every ****ING YEAR. He'd always get sonned by Stockton. He played PG and he could do some things, but he lacked what is necessary to be a PG. He's def not top 50. And that's top 50 with including people who aren't even PGs haha. w t actual.
Isiah Thomas like the little one, wat. Guys like Mookie and Muggsy and Damon Stoudy should be higher. Terrell Brandon. It's like they made their list then remembered all those guys existed and decided to add them in a block. Steve Kerr and D fish are def sus. There are 100, sure, but I'm sure if you gave me some time I could come up with 100 guys. There are some back ups that prol could be on there. Like I was talking about Tyus Jones in another thread. Who doesn't take him over Steve Kerr and D Fish? I know I would. Fish does have some moments, though, but he was like Kerr, a great performer in his position. It's not like if you are taking guys in an all time draft you want to pick them up to push PG for your team.
But yeah the real tragedy is the past 50 point when you see how many classic dudes are there like Kenny Anderson and the aforementioned ones. Abdul-Rauf. Even Doc and Avery, at least those guys were 'legit PGs.' They def seemed to run out of names and just start naming stuff. lol Coming in at 100... Rafer... and let's all be real, there's no way there are 99 PGs in NBA history better than him.
If you're gonna do a list, you should really do it well, and I'd love to see the write ups for these guys. Esp the Rafer one. Haha. I wonder how it feels to be 100. I bet dudes are calling him up. OH SHIT WE FORGOT RAFER.
There is def no consistent criteria. I can tell you that just by looking, and that's w/o knowing who all of those people are. There are like 3-4 dudes I dono who they are.
Edit:
I dono bud haha.
-Smak
actually looking at Derek Harper's stats and on paper I like what I see. Defeinitely not a Bum. Efficient, good 3 pt shooter for his day and was known for D. Didn't like him at the time for sure though even before he refused to come to Utah and said "You go live in Utah".
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
actually looking at Derek Harper's stats and on paper I like what I see. Defeinitely not a Bum. Efficient, good 3 pt shooter for his day and was known for D. Didn't like him at the time for sure though even before he refused to come to Utah and said "You go live in Utah".
I liked him, but I'm an ILL guy.
I got some!! I needed some time. Goran Dragic BOOM. Ez. Marcus Smart DPOY, how can you leave him off, after leading Boston to such good seasons, too? If you're gonna do Bron and Harden, why not Pippen? I also like Bobby Jackson even tho he was a career bench guy, I get the feeling he could have pushed a team as a starter in a different circumstance. He did some things on those good SAC teams off the bench.
AND if we're throwing up Kerr and Fish, where's MARIO CHAMLERS THO?
-Smak
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by Axe
Ja morant at 30. Ridiculous.
And it's interesting to see they got mike conley there as well.
Conley shouldn't be there? He's better than a lot of the guys on there for sure.
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by ILLsmak
I liked him, but I'm an ILL guy.
I got some!! I needed some time. Goran Dragic BOOM. Ez. Marcus Smart DPOY, how can you leave him off, after leading Boston to such good seasons, too? If you're gonna do Bron and Harden, why not Pippen? I also like Bobby Jackson even tho he was a career bench guy, I get the feeling he could have pushed a team as a starter in a different circumstance. He did some things on those good SAC teams off the bench.
AND if we're throwing up Kerr and Fish, where's MARIO CHAMLERS THO?
-Smak
Jackson better than a lot of those guys but a 6th man more than a top 100 pg
Paxon was better than Kerr or Chalmers. Probably a better all around player than Fisher as well. None of them belong
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Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
3 Isiah Thomas
12 Walt Frazier
14 Nate Tiny Archibald
18 Gary Payton
31 Dennis Johnson
35 Dave Bing
36 Hal Greer
45 Rajon Rondo
46 Maurice Cheeks
56 Slater Martin
86 KC Jones
87 Derek Fisher
89 Ron Harper
Horrible takes 23 rings and you can't find room in the top fifty for Martin, Jones, Fisher, and Harper.
Just throwing Greer and Bing in the mid thirties smh
taking the two best PG's of the 70's and not puting them in the top ten
Overrating Isiah Thomas over guys that were productive for literally twice as long and putting him over Oscar
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 100 Greatest Point Guards of All-Time - SLAM Magazine
Originally Posted by John8204
3 Isiah Thomas
12 Walt Frazier
14 Nate Tiny Archibald
18 Gary Payton
31 Dennis Johnson
35 Dave Bing
36 Hal Greer
45 Rajon Rondo
46 Maurice Cheeks
56 Slater Martin
86 KC Jones
87 Derek Fisher
89 Ron Harper
Horrible takes 23 rings and you can't find room in the top fifty for Martin, Jones, Fisher, and Harper.
Just throwing Greer and Bing in the mid thirties smh
taking the two best PG's of the 70's and not puting them in the top ten
Overrating Isiah Thomas over guys that were productive for literally twice as long and putting him over Oscar
Fisher and Harper aren't great pg's no matter how many rings they have. The pg in those systems sometimes brought the ball up the court, sometimes defended the other pg and spotted up
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