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    Default Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody else"

    So it wasn't even 2 years until Giannis started publicly telling his front office to make moves or else he was gone.


    What happened?



    There are zero "loyalty" super stars left in this league that don't go out of their way to recruit/join top tier talent.



    Looks like leaving their own fate to their GM doesn't always pay dividends. You don't always have a superstar GM like Jerry Kraus to deliver you a super team. Players have to force things.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    This is indeed true.


    Dirk is genuiney the ony exampe of an ATG that stuck it out on insufficient teams, never making demands, in fact even rejecting offers from other superstars to team up.


    I think Jokic woud be simiar.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Giannis has played on a small market team for 10 years. Dame for 11 years. I think that qualifies them as loyal.

    If they played on 3-4 teams over that time then their loyalty could be questioned.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    This is indeed true.


    Dirk is genuiney the ony exampe of an ATG that stuck it out on insufficient teams, never making demands, in fact even rejecting offers from other superstars to team up.


    I think Jokic woud be simiar.
    Interesting but coincidentay, dirk was drafted by miwaukee too. Tho he was immediatey traded to daas bt.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Translation: "Bronie should be given a title on a silver platter. It's not fair that teams other than the Lakers try to stack good players!!! Not fair at all!!! "



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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Giannis has played on a small market team for 10 years. Dame for 11 years. I think that qualifies them as loyal.

    If they played on 3-4 teams over that time then their loyalty could be questioned.
    loyalty shouldnt be gauged by how long you stay in a city but how long you are willing to stay in a city on a poor team, especially as superstar. Giannis had no business moving teams the first 5 years.

    Giannis even with a competent team made demands pretty quickly.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Giannis won without team hopping or collision already

    It’s over.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    So it wasn't even 2 years until Giannis started publicly telling his front office to make moves or else he was gone.


    What happened?



    There are zero "loyalty" super stars left in this league that don't go out of their way to recruit/join top tier talent.



    Looks like leaving their own fate to their GM doesn't always pay dividends. You don't always have a superstar GM like Jerry Kraus to deliver you a super team. Players have to force things.
    Looks like this line must've struck a nerve.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    loyalty shouldnt be gauged by how long you stay in a city but how long you are willing to stay in a city on a poor team, especially as superstar. Giannis had no business moving teams the first 5 years.

    Giannis even with a competent team made demands pretty quickly.

    Making demands after 10 years can't be described as quickly under any circumstances. And he hasn't demanded to be traded, he has just made it clear he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild.

    The Bucks were well below .500 during his first 4 years so he definitely could have tried to force a trade after his rookie deal was up.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Making demands after 10 years can't be described as quickly under any circumstances. And he hasn't demanded to be traded, he has just made it clear he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild.

    The Bucks were well below .500 during his first 4 years so he definitely could have tried to force a trade after his rookie deal was up.


    watching lebron stans try to desperately conflate Giannis’ and Dame’s situation with James is hilarious

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan View Post


    watching lebron stans try to desperately conflate Giannis’ and Dame’s situation with James is hilarious
    To be fair Lebron's first stint with the Cavs was 7 years and he left as a free agent. He certainly earned the right to leave.

    But leaving a 60+ win team to join the 2nd best player in the conference along with another All-Star wasn't a good look.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    To be fair Lebron's first stint with the Cavs was 7 years and he left as a free agent. He certainly earned the right to leave.

    But leaving a 60+ win team to join the 2nd best player in the conference along with another All-Star wasn't a good look.
    What about kawhi's situation, uncle? What can be said about his departure from san antonio bt?

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Making demands after 10 years can't be described as quickly under any circumstances. And he hasn't demanded to be traded, he has just made it clear he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild.

    The Bucks were well below .500 during his first 4 years so he definitely could have tried to force a trade after his rookie deal was up.
    Yeah, OP just isn't very smart.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

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    What about kawhi's situation, uncle? What can be said about his departure from san antonio bt?
    Kawhi is a bit nuts. I do give him credit for winning a ring with a team he clearly didn't want to play for, but something is off with this guy.

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    Default Re: Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody e

    Wow brantards are proud of this bran legacy

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