Giannis 2021:“It’s easy to go somewhere and go win a championship with somebody else"

[Full Court]

Wow brantards are proud of this bran legacy

It's ok, and even respectable, when LeShrivel does it. But if someone else does it......BITCH FIT

[8Ball]

Giannis has played on a small market team for 10 years. Dame for 11 years. I think that qualifies them as loyal.

If they played on 3-4 teams over that time then their loyalty could be questioned.

How are they loyal when they signed maxes and then either demand to get traded to a championship contender or tell front offices to make moves or else they are gone?

To be fair Lebron's first stint with the Cavs was 7 years and he left as a free agent. He certainly earned the right to leave.

But leaving a 60+ win team to join the 2nd best player in the conference along with another All-Star wasn't a good look.

How many games did that 60 win team win in 2011 after Bron left?

Did Bron play with anyone as good as Middleton or Jrue Holiday or Brook Lopez in 2010?

[8Ball]

Looks like all that talk about Giannis being a "stick it out" guy through thick and thin was false.


This guy wants high level talent around him like every other superstar.

[FireDavidKahn]

This is indeed true.


Dirk is genuiney the ony exampe of an ATG that stuck it out on insufficient teams, never making demands, in fact even rejecting offers from other superstars to team up.


I think Jokic woud be simiar.

KG was even more loyal.

[iamgine]

Giannis told no lie.

[8Ball]

This is indeed true.


Dirk is genuiney the ony exampe of an ATG that stuck it out on insufficient teams, never making demands, in fact even rejecting offers from other superstars to team up.


I think Jokic woud be simiar.

Dirk had some talent early on but stuck through it.



Jamal Murray is a superstar talent.

[8Ball]

Looks like this line must've struck a nerve.

Jerry Krause delivered Jordan a super team, there is no ifs and or but about that.


Jordan wanted Joe Wolf instead of Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant. Imagine if Jordan got his wish.

[Wardell Curry]

The reality of the situation is that the media and fans don't know how to evaluate how good players are at actually playing basketball. Most of them only look at championships/the results and that's it.

People here seem to be under the impression that championships are solely a reflection of any given individual players' skill/talent, rather than a combination of their skill/talent AND circumstances aka teammates / coaches / league competition none of which they have ultimately controlled.


Guess what? The players have decided that since fans and media are only going to judge them on championships, they're going to take control out of the hands of owners and stop just praying that they put a good team around them.

Even the players that have been judgemental of this in the past are starting to wake the **** up.

[Full Court]

Jerry Krause delivered Jordan a super team, there is no ifs and or but about that.


Jordan wanted Joe Wolf instead of Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant. Imagine if Jordan got his wish.

Yet Jordan WON with a super team.

LeShrivel led a super team to the lottery. He also choked a super team out of a title in 2011.

There are levels to greatness for sure.

[Airupthere]

Yet Jordan WON with a super team.

LeShrivel led a super team to the lottery. He also choked a super team out of a title in 2011.

There are levels to greatness for sure.

Lol imagine thinking that the version of Pippen and Horace that came to chicago is anything close to the version of Bosh, Wade, Love, Kyrie, and AD joining lebron.

[tontoz]

How are they loyal when they signed maxes and then either demand to get traded to a championship contender or tell front offices to make moves or else they are gone?



How many games did that 60 win team win in 2011 after Bron left?

Did Bron play with anyone as good as Middleton or Jrue Holiday or Brook Lopez in 2010?

Dame only demanded a trade after they used the 2nd pick on his replacement

Giannis hasn't demanded a trade at all.

I don't have a problem with Lebron leaving the Cavs after 7 years as a free agent. Leaving to join the 2nd best player in the conference who was also in his 20s and bringing in another All-Star in his 20s wasnt a good look. The way he did it was pretty awful.

"The Decision" then the big show in Miami "Not 4, not 5..." were seriously cringe.

[Airupthere]

Dame only demanded a trade after they used the 2nd pick on his replacement

Giannis hasn't demanded a trade at all.

I don't have a problem with Lebron leaving the Cavs after 7 years as a free agent. Leaving to join the 2nd best player in the conference who was also in his 20s and bringing in another All-Star in his 20s wasnt a good look. The way he did it was pretty awful.

"The Decision" then the big show in Miami "Not 4, not 5..." were seriously cringe.

In his mind, this is vindication, that an old lillard moving to the bucks is tantamount to the unprecedented superfriends/heatles/banana boat team being formed.

[warriorfan]

In his mind, this is vindication, that an old lillard moving to the bucks is tantamount to the unprecedented superfriends/heatles/banana boat team being formed.

[8Ball]

Lol imagine thinking that the version of Pippen and Horace that came to chicago is anything close to the version of Bosh, Wade, Love, Kyrie, and AD joining lebron.

Scottie Pippen made multiple 1st team all-nba + won 55 games without Jordan in 1994 with Horace Grant as his number 2.

Let's see if Bosh, Love Kyrie and AD have done that.

[8Ball]

In his mind, this is vindication, that an old lillard moving to the bucks is tantamount to the unprecedented superfriends/heatles/banana boat team being formed.

Old Lillard: 32ppg in 2023 while he was 32 years old