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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Lebron surpassed Kobe in 2013. It’s no longer a comparison in 2016 after LeBron beat a 73 wins team

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    2 GOATs


    glad I got to see both in their prime

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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    He has plenty of arguments

    More rings
    Better Finals record
    Won b2b with just Gasol, while LeBron needed superstars for all his rings
    Beat the teams LeBron lost to for the championship in '09 & '10
    12 All-Defensive Teams
    81 points
    Only played for one team/more loyal
    More clutch/better killer instinct
    You mention that LeBron needed superstars for all of his rings, but don't mention that 3 of Kobe's 5 rings are because of Shaq. That makes your Gasol statement flawed.

    LeBron wasn't the "robin" in any of his rings

    If we brought up all of the arguments for who's better, LeBron would most definitely have a longer list.

    - More MVPs
    - More FMVPs
    - More all-time points
    - Higher average for ppg/rpg/apg/spg/bpg
    - More playoffs
    - More all-star games
    - More all-NBA teams (including first)
    - More efficient
    - Better playmaker
    - Better three-point shooter
    - Only player to cross 30k/10k/10k (soon to be 40k)
    - Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 25/5/5
    - Tied with Kobe for most game-winners ever
    - Lead his team to the only 3-1 comeback ever in the finals and beat the greatest regular season team of all time
    Last edited by SaltyMeatballs; 10-13-2023 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    You mention that LeBron needed superstars for all of his rings, but don't mention that 3 of Kobe's 5 rings are because of Shaq. That makes your Gasol statement flawed.

    LeBron wasn't the "robin" in any of his rings

    If we brought up all of the arguments for who's better, LeBron would most definitely have a longer list.

    - More MVPs
    - More FMVPs
    - More all-time points
    - Higher average for ppg/rpg/apg/spg/bpg
    - More playoffs
    - More all-star games
    - More all-NBA teams (including first)
    - More efficient
    - Better playmaker
    - Better three-point shooter
    - Only player to cross 30k/10k/10k (soon to be 40k)
    - Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 25/5/5
    - Tied with Kobe for most game-winners ever
    - Lead his team to the only 3-1 comeback ever in the finals and beat the greatest regular season team of all time


    I could honestly pick apart your entire post, especially your over reliance on irrelevant stats.

    But this one was just too much.

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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post


    I could honestly pick apart your entire post, especially your over reliance on irrelevant stats.

    But this one was just too much.
    LeBron has an average of 4.6 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 34.5%

    Kobe has an average of 4.1 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 32.9%

    You tell me who the better three point shooter was.

    "This one was just too much" he says Goofy ass troll

    Also if you read the post I replied to, he also mentioned irrelevant stats. Things like "Beat the teams LeBron lost to for the championship in '09 & '10" and "Only played for one team/more loyal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    You mention that LeBron needed superstars for all of his rings, but don't mention that 3 of Kobe's 5 rings are because of Shaq. That makes your Gasol statement flawed.

    LeBron wasn't the "robin" in any of his rings

    If we brought up all of the arguments for who's better, LeBron would most definitely have a longer list.

    - More MVPs
    - More FMVPs
    - More all-time points
    - Higher average for ppg/rpg/apg/spg/bpg
    - More playoffs
    - More all-star games
    - More all-NBA teams (including first)
    - More efficient
    - Better playmaker
    - Better three-point shooter
    - Only player to cross 30k/10k/10k (soon to be 40k)
    - Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 25/5/5
    - Tied with Kobe for most game-winners ever
    - Lead his team to the only 3-1 comeback ever in the finals and beat the greatest regular season team of all time
    Shaq was swept by an over the hill Jazz squad. They won because of Phil

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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    LeBron has an average of 4.6 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 34.5%

    Kobe has an average of 4.1 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 32.9%

    You tell me who the better three point shooter was.

    "This one was just too much" he says Goofy ass troll

    Also if you read the post I replied to, he also mentioned irrelevant stats. Things like "Beat the teams LeBron lost to for the championship in '09 & '10" and "Only played for one team/more loyal".
    Jordan has a higher career finals 3-pt % than Lebron. Jordan is the better three point shooter.

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    Bran stans need to get over it... Bran himself been a Kobe stan since the 90s and says that KB had 0 flaws offensively. KB got more rings and never left the Lakers to ring chase when he had 0 help at his absolute prime and still ended up with 5 titles..

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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    LeBron has an average of 4.6 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 34.5%

    Kobe has an average of 4.1 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 32.9%

    You tell me who the better three point shooter was.

    "This one was just too much" he says Goofy ass troll

    Also if you read the post I replied to, he also mentioned irrelevant stats. Things like "Beat the teams LeBron lost to for the championship in '09 & '10" and "Only played for one team/more loyal".
    You're jumping to conclusions based on meaningless stats. If you actually watched the games and understood what was taking place, you wouldn't be saying this. Defenses have always given Bron more leeway to shoot than Kobe, because Kobe had the stroke to splash from 24 feet with a hand in his face like it's nothing.

    If Kobe's percentage is lower, it's because he's not getting nearly as many open looks. You're telling me that if both guys are open, you're more confident in Bron shooting a 3 than Kobe?? Lol.


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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    LeBron has an average of 4.6 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 34.5%

    Kobe has an average of 4.1 3PA per game in his career and his career percentage is 32.9%

    You tell me who the better three point shooter was.

    "This one was just too much" he says Goofy ass troll

    Also if you read the post I replied to, he also mentioned irrelevant stats. Things like "Beat the teams LeBron lost to for the championship in '09 & '10" and "Only played for one team/more loyal".

    In their heads 32.9% > 34.5%

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    Braindead casual inserts jordan when he isn't even the player in topic on here. What an insecure buffoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    In their heads 32.9% > 34.5%
    It's really telling how you Bron stans don't know anything about basketball or what goes into it. You have such an elementary understanding of the game, if that.

    All you're concerned with is stats. And it's not surprising, because so is the king.




    "He shoots 2% better from the line over the course of his career! He must be a better shooter! It's right there in the stats!"

    - casual fans who don't know dick about hoops.

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    Are you all actually missing the sarcasm/ trolling in SouthBeachTalents' post? SMH!

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    Default Re: Kobe has zero argument over Bron all-time rankings

    Still no real arguments presented for Kobe.

    Bron passed Kobe for good in 2016, and has simply widened the gap 2017 to now. Kobe is still one of the GOATs, but he's in the back half.

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