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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...osiunas-1.html

    1st round pick of the Stars. Doesn't look like much on paper. Can shoot a bit. A guard. 6'5

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    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba.../isaac-johnson

    2nd round pick. 6'9 PF i guess. Not much of a shooter. Rebounds. Can pass a bit. Got some steals so maybe plays D?

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    Miller/Langford
    Christopher/Devoe/Kinsey/Lukosiunas
    Sensabaugh/Juzang/Justice
    Hendricks/Johnson/Hauser(not sure if he can still play with the Stars or nor?)
    Potter/Ongenda

    Not sure who made it from their tryout last month. I imagine camp starts anyday? They play in a couple weeks

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://kslsports.com/506791/jazz-fa...-against-suns/

    However, with the increasingly impressive play from rookie Keyonte George who scored 12 points, grabbed seven rebounds, and dished out six assists in 27 minutes against Phoenix, the leash for Horton-Tucker canít be long.
    as long as as The Bum is allowed his unlimited leash than a 22 year old ought to have a pretty long one too

    The Jared Butler ĎThis Ainít the Preseason AnymoreĎ Award goes to:
    could give it to George. He has been a lot better though the 2nd half last night wasn't that good. Great 1st half!

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/29/2...-in-game-savvy

    I donít think that anyone is concerned about Kessler at this point because itís only three games into the season and heís playing with some new guys. His timing is a little off and heís had a few bad nights. Iím confident that heíll get back to being himself.
    I'd guess it's the new guys especially Collins. Collins is a great rim runner that can shoot the 3 too. Kessler is probably trying to figure out where he should be depending on where Collins is?

    ďItís an undervalued skill, but Kris is really good at it,Ē Kessler said. ďObviously I havenít been playing as well as I wanted to, but itís early so Iím just trying to stay positive.Ē
    went from a high lottery to the Gleague so he gets it. Probably wouldn't have made it back otherwise

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    Andy Larsen: Ochai Agbaji has been diagnosed with a knee contusion, is listed as questionable vs. DEN tomorrow.

    Ė via Twitter andyblarsen
    knee on knee. That shit hurts

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/key...-ochai-agbaji/

    He could be the second-best player this season when itís all said and done, or nearly unplayable; we simply donít know. All we know is what weíre seeing right now. Simply put, heís someone who can do well on offense, but heís a defensive liability. And considering the biggest issue the team is currently facing is its perimeter defense, George just isnít a player who makes sense to play.
    We know he's getting better and looks like he belongs. Based on pre-season I didn't think he should be playing but he's shown once the lights go on he's a different player. The Bum is the one that shouldn't be playing!

    Not over Ochai Agbaji. Agbaji has seen his minutes decline over the first three games from 19 to 12 to just six minutes of action against the Phoenix Suns. Likewise, George shouldnít be playing 27 minutes. Not over Agbaji.
    Agbaji got hurt and is mostly playing the 3 because they have too many guards and Bums

    George shot 4-12 from the floor in his latest outing against the Suns, a truly terrible night of offense from the rookie. And if that wasnít bad enough, his defense was nearly as problematic. Heís someone who is going to hurt the team as he plays. If he canít score consistently to offset his poor defense, then what is he providing the team?
    he was great in the 1st half. Sounds like he got tired in the 2nd half on his first back to back. He was one of their best players in the 1st for sure

    Especially when George is taking shots away from Kelly Olynyk, Simone Fontecciho, Collin Sexton, and Lauri Marrkkanen. Sexton isnít a great player but heís a far better scorer than George. He may be worse defensively but George hasnít exactly proven to be a reliable defender.
    Simone had a good game in garbage time but he's mostly been awful. Kelly doesn't need shots to be good. Not sure Sexton is a worse defender right now. He at least plays hard at that end. George might be their best pg outside Dunn

    George has only proven one thing so far in his very short career; heís inconsistent. If the goal is to see what the rookies and youngsters can do, tank for a better pick, and worry about competing down the line, okay, play George. But if weíre to believe the players and the coaches that the goal is the playoffs, George shouldnít be getting minutes.
    The Jazz have mostly been awful in 2 of their 3 games. Who should be getting minutes if not the future of the team? It will pay off later

    Not over Agbaji at least. If you want to sit Talen Horton-Tucker, go for it. Give George Horton-Tuckerís minutes. Give George minutes from guys who are either hurting the team or arenít long for the team. Donít give George minutes that should be given to guys who can help balance the defense out.
    who are these great defenders that should be playing?

    Agbaji likewise Kris Dunn, and Walker Kessler, need to be given good minutes to help this horrific defensive start. George isnít a bad prospect, heís just not ready to contribute in meaningful ways, and if you really intend to compete, then George canít be the priority.
    Kessler hasn't been good and Dunn who I love hasn't been great either. The Bum sucks period. I'm all for the kid getting time. He belongs

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/lau...azz-win-games/

    So far, through three games, the Utah Jazz are far from the playoff team we thought theyíd be. Theyíre among the worst, if not the worst defensively; something we feared could be the case due to their collection of offensive-minded guards, while also a middling, unimpressive offense. The team as a whole isnít shooting well, and guys we thought would be big contributors to the team, like Ochai Agbaji, are sitting on the bench watching. Even the defensive dynamo that was supposed to be Walker Kessler is playing uninspired ball.
    Playing a 7 footer at the 3 like it was 1990 has nothing to do with it!


    Clearly, giving guys like Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton, and Talen Horton-Tucker 31.4 shots per game isnít helping this offense. Weíre hopeful Clarkson gets better as the season goes on, but Sexton doesnít shoot threes and Horton-Tucker is the 14th-worst shooter in the league.
    why would you expect The Bum to get better? He's always sucked and is in his 30's now. Sexton can shoot and score. Talen could be a bench piece once The Bum is dealt

    This means either telling the likes of Clarkson, Sexton, and Horton-Tucker to find Markkanen more often or putting in guys who wonít take away from the best shooter on the team. This teamís only victory came when Markkanen out-bodied the opposition and dropped 35 on the Los Angeles Clippers.
    Going to have to put the ball in Dunn's hands. Those guys aren't known for their passing

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/sim...-more-minutes/

    The Utah Jazz are playing a 10-man rotation right now, with a heavy focus on the guard play for the team. Through the the first three games, the Jazz have played five or six guards in all three games, giving them sizeable minutes. Itís not worked all that well and the teamís defense has suffered. While the focus is still on a poorly advised 10-man rotation, the Jazz did give another forward more time on Saturday against the Phoenix Suns.
    The Jazz sucked on D last year so blaming it on the guards when they are playing 3 bigs up front in a league where most play one big is laughable


    The Jazz tapped Simone Fontecchio to get some minutes and he made the most of those minutes; playing 18 of them, while having a great night of shooting. Fontecchio went 5-8 from the floor (3-6 from three) while scoring 13 points and bringing in three rebounds. All while posting a BPM of +6; the highest on the Jazz out of anyone.
    much of it was meaningless garbage time

    The Utah Jazz need size on the wings; watching a group of guards who are all closer to 5í11 than they are 6í6 try and guard longer, more established wing players has been brutal. The teamsí defense is the worst in the league and guys like Walker Kessler and Kris Dunn are being exploited due to the lack of team defense around them.
    Simone should be playing the 4 in today's league. That is where the defensive problems start

    Guys like Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton, and even Talen Hoton-Tucker are not helping this team stop guys and all three have had some scoring fits as well. Clarkson could bounce back, but the team needs to worry about finding guys who can hit their shots consistently, which is a hard task right now. After all, itís not just that theyíre not hitting their shots, itís also that theyíre not playing good defense either.
    When has The Bum ever done anything consistently other than pound the ball. throw up prayers and brick them? Sexton and Talen are both young and have upside anyway

    Each man may be able to bring something to the table but each of the three lacks a major element of their game that is holding back the team. Fontecchio may also suffer from the lack of a certain skillset, but right now heís the best option the team has for a quick fix to not only their defense but their three-point shooting woes.
    I believe Simone was the worst player on the team last year that isn't A Bum. He's not the answer to anything but an expiring contract for Ainge

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/29/how...-their-lineup/

    Clarkson may just be starting off slow, but as heís played well in the FIBA World Cup and for the most part in the preseason, that seems unlikely. Sexton had a rough first two games but against the Suns looked much better; on offense. Defensively heís becoming borderline unplayable. He has a defensive rating of 130, the worst on the team, and a defensive box plus-minus of -6.2.
    I believe the Phillipines lost all their game The Bum played so well. He's where the problems start. Sexton off the bench isn't the problem

    Walker Kessler can be summed up as overwhelmed. Heís on the worst defense in the league and even if he could cover four other spots on the court at the same time, it still wouldnít be enough. So while Kessler isnít single-handedly changing the game on his own, heís also at the mercy of four other guys who are usually not doing their job either.
    Gobert did just exactly that(while getting blamed for not being able to do it enough in the playoffs) and Kessler has been touted as a DPOTY and all defense. Funny they have given up more than 100 pts for 85 straight games. Who was on the team the last time they held a team under 100 I wonder?

    Well, Horton-Tucker is just bad. Heís shooting just 21% from inside the arc, and 33% from outside of it. Heís the top-rated guard defensively but considering how bad the other guards are known to be on defense historically (save for Kris Dunn), thatís not exactly a high bar for him to clear. Defensively he may be a better option than most but the team isnít playing guys that long either.
    His defensive potential is why he's starting. He should come off the bench certainly at this stage of his career anyway

    Of the six guards, only Clarkson is getting anything close to 30 minutes per game, making it really hard to judge the play of guys who are getting 18-21 minutes per night.
    30 minutes from their worst player. Wonder who we can point the finger at?

    Weíre not talking about Keyonte George or the other rookieís development; those young men need time Weíre talking about Sexton, a six-year guard whoís known for his poor defense. Clarkson, who has been to the NBA Finals before, is long known for his poor defense. Weíre talking about Horton-Tucker and his horrid, well, everything.
    Talen has issues but certainly isn't horrid at everything. The Bum is and he isn't young and talented like the others

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    Stars camp opens today!

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://saltcityhoops.com/the-salt-c...c-streak-more/

    Thereís starting to be some amount of noise about Walker Kesslerís counting stats and defensive impact being less impressive through three games, but consider this: 59 of his first 67 minutes have come with at least one of spacing-challenged guards THT and Dunn on the floor. As Jazz fans learned in the Rudy Gobert era, a traditional diving big can still be at the center of a very good offense, but the geometry starts to get harder when you also have non-shooters on the court. So far, the Kessler-THT combo is producing a 108.7 offense and getting outscored by 19.3 points per 100 possessions.
    Gobert was still great no matter the lineup. Kid has a lot to prove still

    Exactly two Jazz players have ever recorded at least three straight double-doubles to begin their Jazz careers:

    Truck Robinson, 1977-78
    John Collins, 2023-24
    nice. If he could play D like Gobert they'd really have something

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50770162...ampion-nuggets

    In the end, there was too much Nikola Jokic (27 points, 10 rebounds and 11 assists) to complete the comeback, but the Jazz made the defending champs play a full four quarters after it looked like it would be a runaway.
    more like 34 minutes of The Bum. That was the ball game

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    Default Re: 2023-24 NBA Season

    https://kslsports.com/506891/jazz-fr...ts-to-victory/

    Kelly Olynyk scored three points on 0-2 shooting, Ochai Agbaji was 0-5 from the floor including 0-2 from three, while Kris Dunn had a scoreless 0-2 performance.
    Olynyk was good. This idea that the announcers and media seem to have of him being a scorer is bizarre

    Depth should be a strength of this Jazz team with the number of veterans and young talent sprinkled throughout the roster. But unless that depth performs on a consistent basis, the Jazz will continue to fall short in winnable games.
    They had 4 frontcourt players and 2 backcourt guys have good games. 34 minutes of The Bum was the difference in the game not Olynyk taking and missing 2 shots

    Olynyk

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