Can we stop calling Jamal Murray an elite player now?

[RRR3]

Sorry, I'm not giving you that kind of credit for being lazy all year and saving up all your energy for the playoffs. This dude legit doesn't try and lets Jokic carry his ass all year until the playoffs, you can't be called elite if you don't actually bring it every night. People were calling him better than Dame this past offseason

[Mask the Embiid]

Sorry, I'm not giving you that kind of credit for being lazy all year and saving up all your energy for the playoffs. This dude legit doesn't try and lets Jokic carry his ass all year until the playoffs, you can't be called elite if you don't actually bring it every night. People were calling him better than Dame this past offseason

Jokic carries him all regular season then he carries jokic all post season…..remember who got 1st rounded without who….your king was 1st round fodder without Murray…. rememba dat….

[RRR3]

Jokic carries him all regular season then he carries jokic all post season…..remember who got 1st rounded without the other one….rememba dat….

Embiid got first rounded when his second option was hurt too, you really thought you had something here. And no Jokic is still far better in the playoffs, anyone with eyes can see that.

[Mask the Embiid]

Embiid got first rounded when his second option was hurt too, you really thought you had something here. And no Jokic is still far better in the playoffs, anyone with eyes can see that.

Who’s better head up?

[iamgine]

He's elite in the past playoff...where it matters.

[Mask the Embiid]

Who’s better head up?

[RRR3]

Al Horford. Sons Shrivelbiid every time.

[SouBeachTalents]

Jokic carries him all regular season then he carries jokic all post season…..remember who got 1st rounded without who….your king was 1st round fodder without Murray…. rememba dat….

He actually made the 2nd round without Murray, so he managed to match Embiid's top accomplishment without him.

[fourkicks44]

Al Horford. Sons Shrivelbiid every time.

And the biggest ass raping that Horford gave to Embiid was also in that first round loss you mentioned earlier

[RRR3]

And the biggest ass raping that Horford gave to Embiid was also in that first round loss you mentioned earlier

Crazy you legit hate mask so bad you're shitting on your own guy


Although I do it too with certain annoying LeBron stans

[highwhey]

He actually made the 2nd round without Murray, so he managed to match Embiid's top accomplishment without him.

but couldn't make it any farther than that and wouldn't, not even last year. murray is a whole different player in the playoffs, like several tiers better. goes from mid totem pole to upper echelon. and as much as people like to toot jokic's horn round these parts, dude isn't shit without murray. i suppose you can say that about most superstars, but the way some of yall talk about jokic it's like he's the GOAT when he'd be a 2nd round exit player without murray.

[RRR3]

but couldn't make it any farther than that and wouldn't, not even last year. murray is a whole different player in the playoffs, like several tiers better. goes from mid totem pole to upper echelon. and as much as people like to toot jokic's horn round these parts, dude isn't shit without murray. i suppose you can say that about most superstars, but the way some of yall talk about jokic it's like he's the GOAT when he'd be a 2nd round exit player without murray.

Okay but you can't just be mid all year and then start trying in the playoffs and expect to be called elite. All the guys considered elite produce consistently. I never denied he balls in the playoffs, but he is a glorified Malik Monk in the regular season.

[highwhey]

Okay but you can't just be mid all year and then start trying in the playoffs and expect to be called elite. All the guys considered elite produce consistently. I never denied he balls in the playoffs, but he is a glorified Malik Monk in the regular season.

yeah i don't have anything to counter that. he's a weird player, weird in the sense that you can't rank him in a linear fashion as you would with most other players.

[RRR3]

yeah i don't have anything to counter that. he's a weird player, weird in the sense that you can't rank him in a linear fashion as you would with most other players.

I can't think of another player in history like him tbh, I made a thread about it a while back iirc.

[1_BAD_TIGER]

You don't have to call Murray elite, but by this time next year you will be calling him a 2 time NBA champion.