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    Default Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    Jokic: 23W 11L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 4.5. +/- 13.7
    Embiid: 21W 5L, team without: 2W 5L. VORP 3.3. +/- 12.9
    Giannis: 23W 10L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 2.8. +/- 7.8
    Shai: 23W 9L, team without: 0W 1L. VORP 2.8. +/- 10.3
    Doncic: 20W 12L, team without: 0W 3L. VORP 3.4. +/- 9.4

    Kawhi: 19W 10L, team without: 2W 2L. VORP 2.0. +/- 6.0

    He's not one of the frontrunners as of yet, but he is in dark horse territory. If the Clippers take the top seed in the West, then he should be a serious contender.

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    I doubt he plays the 65 game minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    I doubt he plays the 65 game minimum.
    Kawhi is on pace to play 72 games.

    It is Embiid who is in danger of missing out, as he is on pace to play just under 65 games (65 if you round it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Kawhi is on pace to play 72 games.

    It is Embiid who is in danger of missing out, as he is on pace to play just under 65 games (65 if you round it).

    Kawhi hasn't played 65 since 2017. At this point I think it is a safe assumption he won't play that many unless of course it is a contract year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Kawhi is on pace to play 72 games.

    It is Embiid who is in danger of missing out, as he is on pace to play just under 65 games (65 if you round it).
    played that many games twice 7 and 8 years ago. Highly unlikely. Hasn't played 60 in 5 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    played that many games twice 7 and 8 years ago. Highly unlikely. Hasn't played 60 in 5 years
    Damn.

    Kawhi’s injury issues have been terrible for the game.

    What a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Jokic: 23W 11L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 4.5. +/- 13.7
    Embiid: 21W 5L, team without: 2W 5L. VORP 3.3. +/- 12.9
    Giannis: 23W 10L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 2.8. +/- 7.8
    Shai: 23W 9L, team without: 0W 1L. VORP 2.8. +/- 10.3
    Doncic: 20W 12L, team without: 0W 3L. VORP 3.4. +/- 9.4

    Kawhi: 19W 10L, team without: 2W 2L. VORP 2.0. +/- 6.0

    He's not one of the frontrunners as of yet, but he is in dark horse territory. If the Clippers take the top seed in the West, then he should be a serious contender.
    huh

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    have fun with that one Clipps

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    Shams Charania: Los Angeles Clippers star Kawhi Leonard signed a new three-year, $152.4 million contract extension, keeping him under contract through the 2026-27 season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium . Massive fully guaranteed, long-term commitment in LA.

    – via Twitter ShamsCharania

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    got themselves a bargain

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    Clippers are within striking distance of Western Conf top seed.

    Kawhi is shooting at an efficient 52.5 FG%, 44.8 3pt%, and 88.5 FT%. Elite defense as well: 3rd on spg.

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    the top 3 have been too good for him to be in the convo but he's a dark horse. Maybe shouldve been an all star starter

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Jokic: 23W 11L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 4.5. +/- 13.7
    Embiid: 21W 5L, team without: 2W 5L. VORP 3.3. +/- 12.9
    Giannis: 23W 10L, team without: 1W 0L. VORP 2.8. +/- 7.8
    Shai: 23W 9L, team without: 0W 1L. VORP 2.8. +/- 10.3
    Doncic: 20W 12L, team without: 0W 3L. VORP 3.4. +/- 9.4

    Kawhi: 19W 10L, team without: 2W 2L. VORP 2.0. +/- 6.0

    He's not one of the frontrunners as of yet, but he is in dark horse territory. If the Clippers take the top seed in the West, then he should be a serious contender.
    All of the ones you mentioned are certainly in contention for MVP, but Anthony Edwards has to be in the conversation as well.

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    Issue is that his scoring volume is far too low. Insanely efficient and the on/off numbers show his impact as well, but Harden has played just as significant of a role for them IMO. Last year they had a mediocre offense and now they're top 5 in the league, and it's in large part thanks to Harden's playmaking and his own efficiency as a scorer.

    No chance at winning the MVP unless he ups his scoring average, but I doubt that'll happen unless he needs to (injuries). Still it's been a heck of a comeback season for him thus far.

    Kawhi's impact on D goes without saying though. If he makes it to 65 games he's probably my pick for both 1st team All-NBA and Defense.

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    Default Re: Kawhi deserves to enter the MVP conversation

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Issue is that his scoring volume is far too low. Insanely efficient and the on/off numbers show his impact as well, but Harden has played just as significant of a role for them IMO. Last year they had a mediocre offense and now they're top 5 in the league, and it's in large part thanks to Harden's playmaking and his own efficiency as a scorer.

    No chance at winning the MVP unless he ups his scoring average, but I doubt that'll happen unless he needs to (injuries). Still it's been a heck of a comeback season for him thus far.

    Kawhi's impact on D goes without saying though. If he makes it to 65 games he's probably my pick for both 1st team All-NBA and Defense.
    MVP and scoring title are two different awards. I disagree that he should have to up his PPG to be considered.

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