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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
You mad bro?
And yet you can't deny that the Lakers were a lottery team until Lebron sat out for six weeks. Then they went on a hot streak, and played about the same after he came back. It was a clear cut case of "no Lebron, no difference."
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by tpols
Kawhi didn't play with Westbrook in the playoffs last year. He got hurt. Brick did put up a fight though with 24/8/7 averages.
Exactly. Bronie fluffers aren't very intelligent.
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Westbrook made over 40 mil with the lakers. He makes like 5mil with the clippers. Lebron/AD(include AD in this you can’t say AD is the best player on the team and then say the lakers fit issues are all on lebron because it’s his team lol) don’t have issues with westbrook if they have someone like Kyrie as a 3rd guy and westbrook plays 15-20mpg off the bench
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
Westbrook made over 40 mil with the lakers. He makes like 5mil with the clippers. Lebron/AD(include AD in this you can’t say AD is the best player on the team and then say the lakers fit issues are all on lebron because it’s his team lol) don’t have issues with westbrook if they have someone like Kyrie as a 3rd guy and westbrook plays 15-20mpg off the bench
Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...
Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.
Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by Full Court
Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...
Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.
Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?
Leader is about off the court. The lakers had a bit of that but Russ wasn’t that toxic main issue was on the court chemistry and with that you’re looking at the best player. Also AD/Russ djd have chemistry issues they were a bad offense on the court together. Makes sense with 2 non shooters and Russ wasn’t a good defender either. AD needs an elite shot creator by him and Russ hasn’t been that since okc years even though he put up good numbers in hou and was.
Lebron/Russ had a net rtg of -1.5 in 2022 Russ/ad had a net rtg of -4.5 so you don’t have an argument here. Russ and AD may have seemed like they didnt have fit issues watching games but they were not good together. If you’re not playing well you have fit issues. No way you don’t contradict yourself here and your counter argument falls flat
Last edited by NBAGOAT; 02-09-2024 at 01:58 AM.
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by Full Court
Two things. First of all, AD is the best player on the Lakers, but Lebron is the team leader. AD is a top 5 player in the league, but nobody considers him a leader of anything. Surely you're not going to try to say he's the team leader...
Second, if you actually watched the Lakers play, it would be clear that fit issues were between Lebron and Westbrook, not between AD and Westbrook. There was quite a bit of discussion about it on here at the time, and a lot of Lakers fans upset at the coach for having Lebron and Westbrook on the floor at the same time. Both are ball dominant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor usually causes issues in the offense.
Also, who was the one who convened a "War Room" and pushed the Lakers to stack the team with former MVP-winner Westbrook?
Ignoring the rest of your inane ramblings, AD is better than Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Luka,Shai, Kawhi, KD, etc.?
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by aj1987
Ignoring the rest of your inane ramblings, AD is better than Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Luka,Shai, Kawhi, KD, etc.?
^Living proof that Bronie fluffers are low-IQ idiots.
It really hurts you deeply to see your hero be a net negative, doesn't it?
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
Leader is about off the court. The lakers had a bit of that but Russ wasn’t that toxic main issue was on the court chemistry and with that you’re looking at the best player. Also AD/Russ djd have chemistry issues they were a bad offense on the court together. Makes sense with 2 non shooters and Russ wasn’t a good defender either. AD needs an elite shot creator by him and Russ hasn’t been that since okc years even though he put up good numbers in hou and was.
Lebron/Russ had a net rtg of -1.5 in 2022 Russ/ad had a net rtg of -4.5 so you don’t have an argument here. Russ and AD may have seemed like they didnt have fit issues watching games but they were not good together. If you’re not playing well you have fit issues. No way you don’t contradict yourself here and your counter argument falls flat
Completely ignored this post. lol
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Completely ignored this post. lol
Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.
Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either.
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by Full Court
Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.
Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either.
He came with facts and actually backed up his point his statistics, you on the other hand... "AD is a top 5 player in the league".
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by Full Court
Didn't need to respond. I gave my take, he gave his, and we have a difference of opinion. At least he actually makes an intelligent argument, unlike you.
Just waiting for you to claim that Tom Brady wouldnt fit with Westbrook either.
your take had no evidence besides your own opinion about AD to back it up. Everyone can have their opinion but one without reasoning behind it is weak. If AD is so good and ad/westbrook had no fit issues, why were they not good together? Could it be that westbrook just wasnt a good player in la. However if that's true, then that could be the main explanation for why the lakers overall and lebron/westbrook werent good either not just the fit issues
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
He came with facts and actually backed up his point his statistics, you on the other hand... "AD is a top 5 player in the league".
He is. You just refuse to acknowledge that nobody has achieved less with the amount of help LeShrivel has had.
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
your take had no evidence besides your own opinion about AD to back it up. Everyone can have their opinion but one without reasoning behind it is weak. If AD is so good and ad/westbrook had no fit issues, why were they not good together? Could it be that westbrook just wasnt a good player in la. However if that's true, then that could be the main explanation for why the lakers overall and lebron/westbrook werent good either not just the fit issues
My "evidence" about AD is that he's possibly the best two-way player in the league. Offense nearly as good as Jokic with way better defense. The only better players in the league, taking both offense and defense into account, are Giannis, Embiid, SGA, and Jokic (Jokic's offense and overall IQ make up for his average defense). So top 5.
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Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
Originally Posted by Full Court
My "evidence" about AD is that he's possibly the best two-way player in the league. Offense nearly as good as Jokic with way better defense. The only better players in the league, taking both offense and defense into account, are Giannis, Embiid, SGA, and Jokic (Jokic's offense and overall IQ make up for his average defense). So top 5.
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Lol
Re: Lebron w/ Westbrook = Lottery. Kawhi w/ Westbrook = Top Seed.
I miss when ISH had standards for trolling. Dull Court can’t carry the old LeBron haters’ jockstraps.
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