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    Default Respect to Doncic

    Of the top players in the game, he is the Most Improved.

    For all the cries of "moar help", the real underlying problem with Dallas was that Doncic played, for the most part, ISO basketball with the occasional brilliant pass. A lot of his assists came from ball dominance. James Harden never won a title and never will; his only thought going into games was "how can I dominate this game". Doncic had roughly the same mentality.

    This year Doncic in my estimation graduated to the level of elites of the game - LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Brown/Tatum, Jokic - who go into a game like a military general thinking "how do WE dominate the battlefield".

    This transition is not minor. Most of the big names in the basketball never make it there. Harden never did. Neither did Westbrook or Durant. Embiid and Booker.

    The series between Dallas and Minnesota showed us the kind of player Doncic can be. Leading a team is not just about dominating the ball and directing traffic. It's about knowing the strengths of your teammates and how to bring the most out of them.

    Doncic showed that with understanding Luckey's athleticism and ability to finish at the rim with well placed lobs. He figured out how to get Gafford involved in the offense off the pick and roll. Sure some of that is Kidd, but you need a leader who isn't so arrogant and stubborn that he's not willing to learn.

    Doncic knew where to find PJ Washington at the 3 point line; Washington's 3 pt shooting in the post-season was higher than his career average (37.6% versus 35.4%)- keep in mind Washington was integrated into the Mavs offense with just 30 or so games on the team.

    For all you LeBron critics, you might want to pay attention to his game because he does the same thing with his teammates. Or look at Jokic turning his B-squad into stars like Aaron Gordon and getting Murray wide open looks. Steph is legendary for turning people like Andrew Wiggins into stars.

    Doncic has turned the corner for the simple reason he knows winning is a team undertaking.

    He has to improve. In the Finals, he regressed to his older style of 'what do i have to do to score' vs 'what do we have to do to win'. The 1 assist in Game 1 was just a minor indicator of that. Whatever assists he got later in the playoffs were largely from ball dominance. LeBron and Steph can create even when they have tough defenders; Doncic has to learn to do that.

    As long as he stays humble and keeps improving his overall game as a team leader, he's got a solid chance to bringing the trophy to Dallas.

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    Default Re: Respect to Doncic

    Quote Originally Posted by bdonovan View Post
    Steph is legendary for turning people like Andrew Wiggins into stars.
    Must've forgotten how to do that.

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    Default Re: Respect to Doncic

    People are responsible for their own play. If you're going to give Steph credit for turning Wiggins into a star than you must also give him criticism for turning Wiggins into an average player. It goes both ways if that's the narrative you choose.

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    Default Re: Respect to Doncic

    Respect for What?

    Getting to NBA finals?

    OR

    averaging 29 ppg in 5 finals games?

    You dont get participation accolades and trophies! despite Bron'sexuals glorifying 10 NBA finals appearances from weakest of the weak East Conf.

    scoring is easiest now. Luka has enough mid-range, post-up game to get to 30 ppg.

    at 25 YOA, his job is to learn not to stat pad like LBJ and actually score "valuable" "winning" late 3rd Quarter and 4th Quarter "clutch" points instead of front loading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdonovan View Post
    Of the top players in the game, he is the Most Improved.

    For all the cries of "moar help", the real underlying problem with Dallas was that Doncic played, for the most part, ISO basketball with the occasional brilliant pass. A lot of his assists came from ball dominance. James Harden never won a title and never will; his only thought going into games was "how can I dominate this game". Doncic had roughly the same mentality.

    This year Doncic in my estimation graduated to the level of elites of the game - LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Brown/Tatum, Jokic - who go into a game like a military general thinking "how do WE dominate the battlefield".

    This transition is not minor. Most of the big names in the basketball never make it there. Harden never did. Neither did Westbrook or Durant. Embiid and Booker.

    The series between Dallas and Minnesota showed us the kind of player Doncic can be. Leading a team is not just about dominating the ball and directing traffic. It's about knowing the strengths of your teammates and how to bring the most out of them.

    Doncic showed that with understanding Luckey's athleticism and ability to finish at the rim with well placed lobs. He figured out how to get Gafford involved in the offense off the pick and roll. Sure some of that is Kidd, but you need a leader who isn't so arrogant and stubborn that he's not willing to learn.

    Doncic knew where to find PJ Washington at the 3 point line; Washington's 3 pt shooting in the post-season was higher than his career average (37.6% versus 35.4%)- keep in mind Washington was integrated into the Mavs offense with just 30 or so games on the team.

    For all you LeBron critics, you might want to pay attention to his game because he does the same thing with his teammates. Or look at Jokic turning his B-squad into stars like Aaron Gordon and getting Murray wide open looks. Steph is legendary for turning people like Andrew Wiggins into stars.

    Doncic has turned the corner for the simple reason he knows winning is a team undertaking.

    He has to improve. In the Finals, he regressed to his older style of 'what do i have to do to score' vs 'what do we have to do to win'. The 1 assist in Game 1 was just a minor indicator of that. Whatever assists he got later in the playoffs were largely from ball dominance. LeBron and Steph can create even when they have tough defenders; Doncic has to learn to do that.

    As long as he stays humble and keeps improving his overall game as a team leader, he's got a solid chance to bringing the trophy to Dallas.
    Yeah, if this isnt about Lebron I'm not reading all that.

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    Guy got cooked on defense all finals and looked lackluster in the last game but of course he stat padded at the end to make his numbers look better than his game was. Weird thread.

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    Default Re: Respect to Doncic

    who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highwhey View Post
    who?
    jstern has been babbling about you again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    People are responsible for their own play. If you're going to give Steph credit for turning Wiggins into a star than you must also give him criticism for turning Wiggins into an average player. It goes both ways if that's the narrative you choose.
    lmfaooooooo


    can a mod do this cat a favor and delete this post for him



    this is an all time worst level post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    People are responsible for their own play. If you're going to give Steph credit for turning Wiggins into a star than you must also give him criticism for turning Wiggins into an average player. It goes both ways if that's the narrative you choose.
    High IQ post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    People are responsible for their own play. If you're going to give Steph credit for turning Wiggins into a star than you must also give him criticism for turning Wiggins into an average player. It goes both ways if that's the narrative you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    jstern has been babbling about you again
    who?

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