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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    The way they've been pulling out games out of their asses. It ends next Sunday.

    Did you not see that they can pull out the required level whenever necessary?

    Did you miss their last 2 games against the Texans and Steelers, and then the Texans again?

    Your kind of talk would only make sense if they wouldnt have won 3 SBs the last 5 years..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    The way they've been pulling out games out of their asses. It ends next Sunday.
    They’ve been doing that for like 5 years though. At a certain point it isn’t pulling it out of your ass. They know what they’re doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    They’ve been doing that for like 5 years though. At a certain point it isn’t pulling it out of your ass. They know what they’re doing.
    Fair enough, I just have a hunch that it ends this year, I put a thousand on it

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    Really nice win for the Bills. On a neutral site I would favor them slightly next week, but because it's at Arrowhead I think it's a tossup.

    Ravens dont have that much to be disappointed about. In those conditions, things happen. A lot of drops in both games today, not just bc the ball is slick but because when your brain has to consciously think about your footing in slick conditions when making a catch, you dont have full attention on your hands. It's a real thing. In dry weather Mark Andrews makes that catch. Lamar's fumble was also fluky, and the center takes some blame too for the bad snap that led to him having to scramble. They also played without Zay Flowers. To me this has nothing to do with any Lamar Jackson postseason weakness. Just a close game on the road in bad weather that didnt go their way. Thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Ravens had no chance after Mask put the curse on them.



    Lamar's first half turnovers cost them the game. Who could have seen that coming?
    Not the fact they Andrews fumbled the ball when ravens were driving? Which resulted in Bills scoring 3 the next drive. Or the fact Andrews dropped an easy 2pt conversion catch to tie the game? It was Lamar first half turnovers lol Yall say anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    And Lamar doesn't belong in the discussion with Mahomes, Allen, & Burrow.
    Josh Allen threw for 127yds 0tds and rushed for 20 yards on 10 attempts. But Lamar isn’t in the same discussion lol riiiiiiight

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBB View Post
    Not the fact they Andrews fumbled the ball when ravens were driving? Which resulted in Bills scoring 3 the next drive. Or the fact Andrews dropped an easy 2pt conversion catch to tie the game? It was Lamar first half turnovers lol Yall say anything
    I wouldnt say the punch-out was particularly Andrews fault, but thats indeed what turned the game.

    Ravens running game was working at that point, they scored their last 3 drives, they could have taken the lead, that punch-out gave the Bills the mathematical edge to close it.

    Im fairly certain the Bills could have driven the ball up for a FG with 1:30 remaining and 2 TOs, feel bad for Andrews that he will now take the headlines for the loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBB View Post
    Not the fact they Andrews fumbled the ball when ravens were driving? Which resulted in Bills scoring 3 the next drive. Or the fact Andrews dropped an easy 2pt conversion catch to tie the game? It was Lamar first half turnovers lol Yall say anything
    I mean it was both..

    Lamar had 2 bad turnovers that were inarguably his fault. And the Bills scored both times I think off of them.

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    It's worth remembering the Bills led the league in turnover margin. That's what they do. Their defense cant stop people moving the ball but they do get a lot of takeaways. And the offense kept their own turnovers way down this year.

    It takes two sides of the ball to win the turnover battle. You can point to Lamar and Mark for their turnovers, sure, but you can just as easily ask why the Ravens defense didnt create any. The Bills may not have marched all over them every drive, but the Ravens D really didnt play a particularly disruptive game either. I dont remember them even having a sack, maybe they got 1 or 2 at most. And thats it.

    So, it's a team game. The Ravens team got outplayed by the Bills team. That simple.
    Last edited by Neal Romer; 01-20-2025 at 09:43 AM.

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    I normally would enjoy piling on for Lamar coming up short in the playoffs, but I can't really fully blame Lamar for this one. Yes he had the 2 turnovers, which lead to 7 points from Buffalo, but when they needed him the most, he lead them right down the field for the score. Shame Mark Andrews decided to make two boneheaded mistakes that ended up being costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally450 View Post
    I normally would enjoy piling on for Lamar coming up short in the playoffs, but I can't really fully blame Lamar for this one. Yes he had the 2 turnovers, which lead to 7 points from Buffalo, but when they needed him the most, he lead them right down the field for the score. Shame Mark Andrews decided to make two boneheaded mistakes that ended up being costly.
    2 boneheaded mistakes? wut

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal Romer View Post
    It's worth remembering the Bills led the league in turnover margin. That's what they do. Their defense cant stop people moving the ball but they do get a lot of takeaways. And the offense kept their own turnovers way down this year.

    It takes two sides of the ball to win the turnover battle. You can point to Lamar and Mark for their turnovers, sure, but you can just as easily ask why the Ravens defense didnt create any. The Bills may not have marched all over them every drive, but the Ravens D really didnt play a particularly disruptive game either. I dont remember them even having a sack, maybe they got 1 or 2 at most. And thats it.

    So, it's a team game. The Ravens team got outplayed by the Bills team. That simple.
    I dont really think the Ravens team got outplayed by the Bills team. It came down to 1 play by 1 individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    I mean it was both..

    Lamar had 2 bad turnovers that were inarguably his fault. And the Bills scored both times I think off of them.
    It’s a playoff game in poor conditions where everyone is trying to make plays. Placing blame solely on one person is silly. There were a lot of mistakes made. Lamar still drove the ravens down the field to not only score a td but to tie. But we are highlighting first half turnovers as the reason they lost? Cmon.

    And no the interception didn’t result in any points scored by Buffalo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neal Romer View Post
    So, it's a team game. The Ravens team got outplayed by the Bills team. That simple.
    I really feel home field advantage won that game. Baltimore isn't used to the snow the way Buffalo is, you saw a lot of mishandling of the ball on the Ravens side, bunch of dropped passes, fumble by Lamar that resulted in a TD, fumble and a dropped pass by Andrews. Lamar only had 9 turnovers all regular season, he had 2 last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBB View Post
    Josh Allen threw for 127yds 0tds and rushed for 20 yards on 10 attempts. But Lamar isn’t in the same discussion lol riiiiiiight
    Allen played playoff football and took care of the ball all night. Winning football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Allen played playoff football and took care of the ball all night. Winning football.
    Joe burrow didn’t take care of the pigskin his last post season appearance. But yea….

    Go figure bengals not in playoffs. Must not have been apart of “winning” football.

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