electoral vs popular vote

[Jasper]

As most of you know , we the US is the only country in the world that uses the electoral college for results to pass (or vote) in a president.



This can be changed , and in my opinion our majority voters can be heard.

[SouBeachTalents]

Please make more threads, 3 in 25 minutes isn't enough.

[Patrick Chewing]

All this proper embedding tells me that someone is helping you behind the scenes. Fess up, gramps. Who is posting for you?

[Lakers Legend#32]

If Kamala wins by the popular vote by more than 3% she wins the electoral college.

[TheMan]

If Kamala wins by the popular vote by more than 3% she wins the electoral college.

There are more registered Democrats than Republicans, not by a whole lot but they hold the advantage, if it weren't for the Electoral College, the
GOP wouldn't ever win a presidential election Since 1992, the Dems have won every national vote except for 2004, Dubya's re-election bid. Harris will win the national vote again but Trump's in the game because of the EC.

[BigKobeFan]

As most of you know , we the US is the only country in the world that uses the electoral college for results to pass (or vote) in a president.



This can be changed , and in my opinion our majority voters can be heard.

Learn your history you ****ing idiot

[Lakers Legend#32]

There are more registered Democrats than Republicans, not by a whole lot but they hold the advantage, if it weren't for the Electoral College, the
GOP wouldn't ever win a presidential election Since 1992, the Dems have won every national vote except for 2004, Dubya's re-election bid. Harris will win the national vote again but Trump's in the game because of the EC.

All the more reason to get rid of the electoral college.

We don't need to put anymore losers into the White House.

[iamgine]

Every system has its downsides. Simple majority rule has its problems, which was why electoral college was created. But of course it too has pro and cons.

It just depends which pro and cons are better in your opinion.

[j3lademaster]

Should we go by popular vote? Maybe a rating system where you rank the candidates like mvp voting in the nba?

[Jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky9xGsjQTE

[Lakers Legend#32]

If you do not win the popular vote, your presidency has no legitimacy.

[rmt]

So, he's saying that I should give up MY VOTE, MY "CHOICE" for the mob/majority rule?

[j3lademaster]

So, he's saying that I should give up MY VOTE, MY "CHOICE" for the mob/majority rule?

What? no. You do realize "mob rule" represents YOUR vote right? Mob rule literally means the people rule society. You don't want that? Mob rule bad is literally oligarchial propaganda.

And going to popular vote is much better for equality. Right now, if you're a tech bro paying 10's of thousands a year in California and you want to support Trump, your vote literally doesn't matter because you're in California. You are a top 1% federal tax revenue contributor and they care more about some 18 year old's vote in Iowa than yours. Imagine that, you should at least be equal with the unemployed 18 year old right? OTOH, if you're in Mississippi Trump doesn't even care about policies who help you because Mississippi will always vote red and dems will ignore you, treating you like a 'lost state' anyway.

[ILLsmak]

What? no. You do realize "mob rule" represents YOUR vote right? Mob rule literally means the people rule society. You don't want that? Mob rule bad is literally oligarchial propaganda.

And going to popular vote is much better for equality. Right now, if you're a tech bro paying 10's of thousands a year in California and you want to support Trump, your vote literally doesn't matter because you're in California. You are a top 1% federal tax revenue contributor and they care more about some 18 year old's vote in Iowa than yours. Imagine that, you should at least be equal with the unemployed 18 year old right? OTOH, if you're in Mississippi Trump doesn't even care about policies who help you because Mississippi will always vote red and dems will ignore you, treating you like a 'lost state' anyway.

That's looking at it way too simply. That's how they can game the system, sure, but people fall into categories as a whole. And there will be outliers. If you make it popular vote only, you will find that there are fewer issues taken into account. It wouldn't just change whole the president was, but they would be governing differently. Our country is set up with safeguards. The House, The Senate... other than the figurehead of being the president, if our government was actually trying to work, none of this would matter.

But you have to look way bigger picture. Plus if someone wanted to, they could have a residence in Iowa and vote there haha. If people cared so much, they could easily move and take over the EC the same way they think they are taking over the popular vote, and it wouldn't be illegal. But it's good that you have to carry a lot of states, imo. They were thinking there wasn't gonna be a R again in general. I think some Obama advisor was saying that. It wasn't until they 'broke the blue wall' that it became possible, and it's still a major uphill battle for them to win. The party that holds the biggest states like IL, CA, NY ends up with a huge head start. It's not 1:1, but it's still an advantage.

-Smak

[j3lademaster]

That's looking at it way too simply. That's how they can game the system, sure, but people fall into categories as a whole. And there will be outliers. If you make it popular vote only, you will find that there are fewer issues taken into account. It wouldn't just change whole the president was, but they would be governing differently. Our country is set up with safeguards. The House, The Senate... other than the figurehead of being the president, if our government was actually trying to work, none of this would matter.

But you have to look way bigger picture. Plus if someone wanted to, they could have a residence in Iowa and vote there haha. If people cared so much, they could easily move and take over the EC the same way they think they are taking over the popular vote, and it wouldn't be illegal. But it's good that you have to carry a lot of states, imo. They were thinking there wasn't gonna be a R again in general. I think some Obama advisor was saying that. It wasn't until they 'broke the blue wall' that it became possible, and it's still a major uphill battle for them to win. The party that holds the biggest states like IL, CA, NY ends up with a huge head start. It's not 1:1, but it's still an advantage.

-Smak

"Just buy a house in a swing state and claim that as your primary residence bro" isn't a good solution, and a pretty bad argument. Your vote should be equal to someone who lives in Florida, Iowa, etc. Period. It isn't under the current electoral college, but would be if we had a simpler popular vote system.