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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by highwhey
this fat lard has threatened to kill ISH members along with any liberal that gets in his way. of course he sympathizes with a mass school shooter, he's a mass piece of sh1t himself.
That fat lard also celebrated when that Trump judge got Kyle Rittenhouse off for killing two people.
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Suns in 4
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by Lakers Legend#32
That fat lard also celebrated when that Trump judge got Kyle Rittenhouse off for killing two people.
yeah, fat lard chewing has a pattern of simping for mass shooters.
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by highwhey
yeah, fat lard chewing has a pattern of simping for mass shooters.
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Suns in 4
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
have never threatened or even thought about shooting another human being. i hope i never have to use my weapon.
you on the other hand, we have on record threatening multiple insidehoops forum members (including myself) just for existing, and now you're defending a mass shooter.
you sink to new lows everyday guy, you're a pathetic human being.
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Suns in 4
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
that's a fcking badass pic tho
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by highwhey
have never threatened or even thought about shooting another human being. i hope i never have to use my weapon.
you on the other hand, we have on record threatening multiple insidehoops forum members (including myself) just for existing, and now you're defending a mass shooter.
you sink to new lows everyday guy, you're a pathetic human being.
you in the other hand have wierd stretch marks because of your obesity
gl with that home boy
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by j3lademaster
Not in this case, no. He’s an obvious danger to society at this point. Parents should also stand trial for negligence.
He can’t get out at ~18 and arguably that’s why the distinction exists. I think people like that belong in care facilities. In no way do they understand the true consequences of their action in the way ‘an adult’ would, but this isn’t something you’ll outgrow so fast. If you take such a ‘grown action,’ there is no other way because that’s how the system is set up.
Conversely I do have a problem with the implication. I don’t agree he acted as an adult. He takes a gun to school and shits the bed, ends up shooting someone in the arm, etc, and he’s probably charged as a child, but due to circumstance, and I definitely understand it takes a different type to go around terrorizing people, not like he fired a burst into the a crowd, still I don’t see it so differently from a teen slamming the door and playing music cuz he’s mad. It is wildly different, but I definitely think these people have some kind of a mental break especially once they actually start shooting. Shame on them for even planning to start, but I don’t think you can tell if they are irredeemable until you get to observe them. More than four years is required.
Tldr I do have a big problem with lifing this kid, even tho he’ll probably get solitary. If they do death penalty it’s even crazier. Also shame on them for not taking the guns away. It’s like yeah, sorry, but until that kid is out of the house, you’ve lost the right to keep guns at home. That’s not a 2a issue. Can have all ur guns elsewhere.
-Smak
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by John8204
At what point do we acknowledge that the child has the ability to know right from wrong and understand the consequences of his actions? I'm fine with executing the father he was abusing his son and gave him the firearms. We're dealing with a generation of people that have become so polarized in politically ideology that gun ownership is no longer a responsibility.
You aren't considering that there could be more potential victims. The possibility that this kid would kill more people is the reason why he had to be locked up. The possibility that he could be made into a functional non-murdering member of society is not worth that risk. We can't be like, " well, sorry he shot up the parade, but he was so young, he deserves a second chance"...no, he doesn't. Not when the thing he does wrong ends people's lives. This isnt a kid stealing sneakers or smoking pot. This is a murderer.
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NBA Legend
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
He could be facing the death penalty in all seriousness.
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
You aren't considering that there could be more potential victims. The possibility that this kid would kill more people is the reason why he had to be locked up. The possibility that he could be made into a functional non-murdering member of society is not worth that risk. We can't be like, " well, sorry he shot up the parade, but he was so young, he deserves a second chance"...no, he doesn't. Not when the thing he does wrong ends people's lives. This isnt a kid stealing sneakers or smoking pot. This is a murderer.
I don't think that's something that has happened before. Other countries have had child murderers and then do release them because other countries are not dystopian capitalist wastelands. And if the shooter was female it would happen later quietly...that's what happened with the Bully killers. The girls got out after 15 years and the boys stayed in prison for life.
We need to know how the child got the gun and what role his father played in this case. If it were me I would treat this like the DC sniper case and charge the father with the murders
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by John8204
I don't think that's something that has happened before. Other countries have had child murderers and then do release them because other countries are not dystopian capitalist wastelands. And if the shooter was female it would happen later quietly...that's what happened with the Bully killers. The girls got out after 15 years and the boys stayed in prison for life.
We need to know how the child got the gun and what role his father played in this case. If it were me I would treat this like the DC sniper case and charge the father with the murders
We don't have statistics on how often mass shooters kill again after they get out of prison because we don't let them out. If we were to start it would have to be judged on a case-by-case basis where a psychologist analyzes the killer for the likelihood that they would murder again. And honestly I would feel bad for that psychologist because every time that they were wrong someone would die and people would turn on them like it was their fault. Even a 1% incorrect rate would be unacceptable. So lock him up and throw away the key. There are some things you just can't do.
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by ILLsmak
He can’t get out at ~18 and arguably that’s why the distinction exists. I think people like that belong in care facilities. In no way do they understand the true consequences of their action in the way ‘an adult’ would, but this isn’t something you’ll outgrow so fast. If you take such a ‘grown action,’ there is no other way because that’s how the system is set up.
Conversely I do have a problem with the implication. I don’t agree he acted as an adult. He takes a gun to school and shits the bed, ends up shooting someone in the arm, etc, and he’s probably charged as a child, but due to circumstance, and I definitely understand it takes a different type to go around terrorizing people, not like he fired a burst into the a crowd, still I don’t see it so differently from a teen slamming the door and playing music cuz he’s mad. It is wildly different, but I definitely think these people have some kind of a mental break especially once they actually start shooting. Shame on them for even planning to start, but I don’t think you can tell if they are irredeemable until you get to observe them. More than four years is required.
Tldr I do have a big problem with lifing this kid, even tho he’ll probably get solitary. If they do death penalty it’s even crazier. Also shame on them for not taking the guns away. It’s like yeah, sorry, but until that kid is out of the house, you’ve lost the right to keep guns at home. That’s not a 2a issue. Can have all ur guns elsewhere.
-Smak
I don't see much of a difference between a 14 and 18 year old in terms of knowing right from wrong in those extremes, such as knowing killing people is wrong. A disturbed and abused 18 year old in this situation would get the chair or life in prison, even in cases of immature personality disorder they get charged for whatever they're convicted of as an adult(this is important for precedence). This isn't a situation where he killed another kid because he wanted to try that move his favorite wrestler did on WWE or something.
And if new evidence arises, there have been cases where life without parole has been overturned and sentences reduced. But until then, he needs to be locked up where he can't harm others in society.
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Suns in 4
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
patrick chewing when he meets colt outside the court house
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Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by j3lademaster
I don't see much of a difference between a 14 and 18 year old in terms of knowing right from wrong in those extremes, such as knowing killing people is wrong. A disturbed and abused 18 year old in this situation would get the chair or life in prison, even in cases of immature personality disorder they get charged for whatever they're convicted of as an adult(this is important for precedence). This isn't a situation where he killed another kid because he wanted to try that move his favorite wrestler did on WWE or something.
And if new evidence arises, there have been cases where life without parole has been overturned and sentences reduced. But until then, he needs to be locked up where he can't harm others in society.
To add on here, personally I would have understood not to do something like this from the age of 7...maybe younger than that. Whenever I understood what death is and what it meant to kill someone. In fact it would never have occurred to me to shoot up the school. This kid didn't do this because he didn't understand that guns are dangerous and he was just copying something he saw on TV. He did this because he understood that guns are dangerous and wanted to hurt people. And that's why he can't be let out.
It truly is tragic that his father was (allegedly) this massive piece of shit that beat him and gave him a gun after the FBI investigated him for posting threats. The kids may well have been set up grow up to be a problem. But what the courts have to deal with is not just what is just for this one individual but also whether or not this individual is a danger to the public. It's truly unfair that his dad ruined him but he did and now the courts have to keep the school children of Georgia safe from him.
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NBA Legend
Re: Anyone else have a problem with charging a 14 year old as an adult?
Originally Posted by warriorfan
you in the other hand have wierd stretch marks because of your obesity
gl with that home boy
All this time... I always thought that stretch marks pic was a random one you found online... thinking that was suspenders holding up his drawes. Now realize it's a real pic of highwhey and a gun strap in that close-up pic.
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