Now that Harris has done interviews, Trump appears to be the favorite at the moment

[1987_Lakers]

https://polymarket.com/elections

https://www.realclearpolling.com/map...ctoral-college

[1987_Lakers]

Me back in August

Might be a fluke rise in the polls. The same thing happened to McCain when he announced Sarah Palin as his VP, it temporarily helped his polls numbers, but then the public got to know her. I think Kamala will suffer a similar fate.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's laughable to think Kamala HAD, not has, but HAD any chance of beating Trump. Trump 2024 is the real deal.

[diamenz]

It's laughable to think Kamala HAD, not has, but HAD any chance of beating Trump. Trump 2024 is the real deal.

you'd be surprised at how much impact liberal media and celebrity endorsements can have on the npc masses. i mean, hillary clinton almost won the presidency riding the "i'm a clinton and i'm a woman - what more do i need to offer you?" wave. ffs, a feeble old man that can't tell up from down is our commander in chief.

[ILLsmak]

you'd be surprised at how much impact liberal media and celebrity endorsements can have on the npc masses. i mean, hillary clinton almost won the presidency riding the "i'm a clinton and i'm a woman - what more do i need to offer you?" wave. ffs, a feeble old man that can't tell up from down is our commander in chief.

It was different. She was coming off of Obama. In the end, people low key disliked Obama enough to get Trump in, but she also got a huge boost off of that. They are trying to do some of the same BS that they did, but people who are saying Kammy is a better candidate than Hillary are probably young. Hillary was set to run and she would have beaten anyone else but Trump; Trump got boosted by the media (and he still does, imagine 10 years of people hanging on your every word,) but Hillary was all set start to finish. She bodies any other republican. It wasn't a 5050 election like this is supposed to be.

Sure, she lost, and that causes people to rethink what actually happened. In the end, it's probably people hoping Kamala will win who are saying that she is the better candidate. Hillary had a lot more going for her, though. She had that woman's power shit before. She was even able to leverage Bill Clinton being a pervert to her own advantage. Like she sidestepped 'the man' and was gonna break the glass ceiling.

Crazy shit happens, but it's hard to see how Kamala doesn't crash and burn. I'm sure there are a lot of things they are going to do to try to get her in, but haha...

One cannot ignore the fact that v Hillary and v Biden, Trump was getting less of the percentage of the vote. He is somehow on the uptick even after Jan6th. I legit will never understand why that dude didn't come out and be like yeahhhh my bad. There were so many ways he could have spun it. I legit think that him not doing that will be the reason he loses if he does. That's the only thing people really have on him that compares to the abomination that Kamala is.

-Smak

[DJMcDonald]

OP is 5'4

[Hey Yo]

If Kamalluh camp felt comfortable right now, Obama wouldn't be leaving beautiful Hawaii to fly in and campaign for her in key swing states.

This dude ain't got better shit to do?

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-ha...3abd0adbc34010

[Patrick Chewing]

If Kamalluh camp felt comfortable right now, Obama wouldn't be leaving beautiful Hawaii to fly in and campaign for her in key swing states.

This dude ain't got better shit to do?

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-ha...3abd0adbc34010

When he's not busy killing his own personal chef or getting pegged by Michelle, he's out on the campaign trail for a terrible candidate.

[Off the Court]

Harris is still the favorite to win

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

[TheMan]

Harris is still the favorite to win

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

Hilarious that the Trumpers here are already doing their victory lap

As it stands, both absolutely have a shot at this...for Trump, is there still a secret Trump vote? He has previously over performed the polls (2016, 2020), even if his over performance is a mere percentage point, that could be enough to flip one or more of the Blue Wall states that he needs to reach 270, or have pollsters made the adjustments having two previous national elections that his over performance are already weighed in?

For Harris...win all 3 Blue Wall states (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) that Sleepy Joe won in '20, Biden was still competitive in these states when he dropped out, as ridiculous as it sounds. Harris Walz have expanded the Democrats pathways putting Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia in play, that's a huge difference. And about about the Blue Wall states, Harris has home field advantage, as they are historically Democratic leaning, just as Trump has the HFA in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. Harder to flip in other words..

I don't believe any of the two campaigns should feel overly confident as there are variables that can flip this election either way.

Having said that, I agree with ILLsmak, if Trump would have kept his ego in check and conceded defeat without looking like a big whiney baby, I think he would be running away with this, he gives the Democrats who say he's a danger ro democracy plenty of ammo and if he does in fact lose, that will be one of the main reasons.

[1987_Lakers]

Harris is still the favorite to win

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again.

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.

[Off the Court]

Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again.

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.

Okay but, my entire point was that having a 51/49 Vegas odds edge means little to nothing. I mean you clearly have your hopes up as though that 1 percentage point means Trump will win, but the reality is that the gamblers are saying this is a virtual coin flip.

If the odds were shifting 75/25 or even 60/40 then okay, that is a clear lead. But these two have been teetering over tiny amounts.

Also the major pollsters claim to have adjusted their systems to fit the mishaps of 2020 and 2016. I don't trust that is actually the case, but FWIW that is what they are claiming.

[1987_Lakers]

Michigan is looking crazy. This state was an easy victory for Harris, but now it's a coin flip. It was at 68% chance of victory for Harris just 10 days ago, now it's at 52% for Harris. If Harris loses this state, it's basically over.

[1987_Lakers]

Okay but, my entire point was that having a 51/49 Vegas odds edge means little to nothing.

Your link doesn't have it at 51/49 anymore.

[Off the Court]

Your link doesn't have it at 51/49 anymore.

right it's at 50/50

which is virtually the same as 51/49

my point



like if either candidate is ahead 51/49, Trump or Kamala, it doesn't really mean a whole lot. Get it?

If those were sports teams that played 100 times, one would win 51 times and the other would win 49 times. That is what Vegas is saying.