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    Default Re: Trump is going to end the War in the ME

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    lol wut? What a reach by you. China is a communist nation that is eating our lunch. They're buying our land and taking our jobs. They're communists who literally have people enslaved at this very moment. There was no good relationship with that country unless you were willing to overlook everything that I just mentioned.


    Things that you love hating so much. China, the muslim and hamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post


    Things that you love hating so much. China, the muslim and hamas.
    Are you actually on record here supporting China?? The **** is wrong with you??


    Yo that Trump Derangement Syndrome is really affecting the critical thinking of some people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    I dont think we can entirely say wether he is anti war or not based on this but if he were to end that war it would absolutely cement him as one of the biggest anti war presidents and presidents of peace ever.

    That would be huge.

    He can really leave a mark here if he puts his foot down and orders Israel/Netanyahu to stop.

    I bet German media would call him antisemetic for it hahaha
    oh dude i agree - i'd give him infinite credit for that. i want to be optimistic about trump on foreign affairs. unlike biden, just the fact that he's willing to come to the table and play the give and take game is half the battle.

    it just ends up being a matter of the amount of money & influence he allows to be exerted on him by his donors and the foriegn policy establishment... and of course who he ultimately appoints in his cabinet. mike pompeo and tom cotton - yeah... not so optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstern View Post
    I don't think Trump likes Netanyahu, but if he wants to become President, then ACTING like he's the greatest, in public, is an absolute must.
    this is an interesting point. push come to shove, trump isn't going to allow himself to be pushed around on the world stage. if a prolonged or more widespread war in the ME escalates to the expense of his optics, unlike biden who's an idealogue as opposed to an egomaniac like trump, he's more liable to put netanyahu in his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    oh dude i agree - i'd give him infinite credit for that. i want to be optimistic about trump on foreign affairs. unlike biden, just the fact that he's willing to come to the table and play the give and take game is half the battle.

    it just ends up being a matter of the amount of money & influence he allows to be exerted on him by his donors and the foriegn policy establishment... and of course who he ultimately appoints in his cabinet. mike pompeo and tom cotton - yeah... not so optimistic.

    Everybody thats establishment should be miles away from a position, so hearing Mike Pompeo is already alarm bells.


    What was all this for, just to appoint guys like that?

    Cmon. Dont make me buy into the its all a stage/charade theories, Don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    What wars did he actively start or oversee during his first term? If we tout that he's anti-war, it's because he is.
    and i've given him credit for that time and time again but that doesn't paint the entire picture nor does it give trump a free pass going into the next four years. there's more to hold a president to account to at the foreign policy level than just starting wars.

    like i said, ending the conflict in ukraine is easy politics for him. how he steps up against bibi and the israel lobby is an entirely different story. that's the real test.
    so like i said - we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamenz View Post
    and i've given him credit for that time and time again but that doesn't paint the entire picture nor does it give trump a free pass going into the next four years. there's more to hold a president to account to at the foreign policy level than just starting wars.

    like i said, ending the conflict in ukraine is easy politics for him. how he steps up against bibi and the israel lobby is an entirely different story. that's the real test.
    so like i said - we'll see.
    He'll convince Hamas to release the hostages and then you won't have to look at Netanyahu all the time and blame him for everything. It's funny, not that I want to get into a whole discussion on Israel again, but I might be the only pro-Israel guy on here, but it just seems as if none of you mention Hamas and the simple fact that all they have to do is release the hostages. Whether they're still alive or dead, just release them. To this day, there are still around 100 Israelis unaccounted for.

    Either way, I think Trump already has Hamas shaking in their boots and those hostages get released the day of his Inauguration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Everybody thats establishment should be miles away from a position, so hearing Mike Pompeo is already alarm bells.


    What was all this for, just to appoint guys like that?

    Cmon. Dont make me buy into the its all a stage/charade theories, Don.
    Announced today that Pompeo won't be joining the administration, same for Nikke Haley.

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    Default Re: Trump is going to end the War in the ME

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    Announced today that Pompeo won't be joining the administration, same for Nikke Haley.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    Announced today that Pompeo won't be joining the administration, same for Nikke Haley.
    that's a start.

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    Default Re: Trump is going to end the War in the ME

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    Announced today that Pompeo won't be joining the administration, same for Nikke Haley.
    ****ing A.

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    Default Re: Trump is going to end the War in the ME

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    He'll convince Hamas to release the hostages and then you won't have to look at Netanyahu all the time and blame him for everything. It's funny, not that I want to get into a whole discussion on Israel again, but I might be the only pro-Israel guy on here, but it just seems as if none of you mention Hamas and the simple fact that all they have to do is release the hostages. Whether they're still alive or dead, just release them. To this day, there are still around 100 Israelis unaccounted for.

    Either way, I think Trump already has Hamas shaking in their boots and those hostages get released the day of his Inauguration.
    Not just do Israel have much more hostages / prisoners than Hamas, Netanyahu has already said hostages wont change anything.

    You‘re so gullible man.

    Netanyahu doesnt give af about the hostages lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Not just do Israel have much more hostages / prisoners than Hamas, Netanyahu has already said hostages wont change anything.

    You‘re so gullible man.

    Netanyahu doesnt give af about the hostages lmao.
    You're so gullible man.


    You see? I can call you gullible too.

    Let me ask you a question, how do you know Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostages? Did he tell you personally?

    You guys are literally incapable of condemning these Muslim savages. It's pathetic.

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    Default Re: Trump is going to end the War in the ME

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Are you actually on record here supporting China?? The **** is wrong with you??


    Yo that Trump Derangement Syndrome is really affecting the critical thinking of some people here.
    I never implied such thing, you overweight dumbass. I just said your orange daddy was responsible for trying to light and play some fire with them.

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