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    Thumbs up Jokic and Westbrook's chemistry is insane

    They really need to keep Russ in the starting lineup. I'm not sure what's going to happen when Aaron Gordon gets back.

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    5 star thread

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    Default Re: Jokic and Westbrook's chemistry is insane

    Neither has played with an elite playmaker before. Sure, Russ played with LeBron but they got in the way of each other a lot.

    I guess the details matter: LBJ and RW both thrive as playmakers on-ball with a live dribble in transition and as ball handlers in PnR actions. Jokic does those things but also all of the big man passing stuff from the post, elbow/hand-off action, and secondary actions/short roll.

    Sure, LeBron can pass from the short roll, post, or hand-off action, but not like Nikola can. Makes Jokic a more natural fit when combined with his size, robust shooting, floater, and post-up game.
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    Add Jokic to the list of stars playing the best basketball of their careers next to Westbrook

    I really hope he gets a ring this year

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    Only one star ever was not able to get to the playoff with Westbrook. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    Add Jokic to the list of stars playing the best basketball of their careers next to Westbrook

    I really hope he gets a ring this year
    In 3 years straight George had his best year, Harden averaged 34, and Beal averaged 31. Before that KD peaked at 32 and now Jokic is over 31.

    Not what you’d expect by reputation. But other players have always loved him. Jokic asked for him.

    Hes gotta have among the greatest discrepancies between peer and fan admiration in sports.

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    PG was 3rd in the MVP race with Russ in spite of playing the last few weeks with shoulders that required surgery after the season.

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    Default Re: Jokic and Westbrook's chemistry is insane

    There's no player archetype that Jokic wouldn't fit with.

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    Denver's offense is currently 4th in the NBA at 118.4 ORtg and +5.3 rORtg. That's the best offense they've had in the Jokic era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin View Post
    Denver's offense is currently 4th in the NBA at 118.4 ORtg and +5.3 rORtg. That's the best offense they've had in the Jokic era.
    Based on the eye test, their defense has dropped off noticeably from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855 View Post
    In 3 years straight George had his best year, Harden averaged 34, and Beal averaged 31. Before that KD peaked at 32 and now Jokic is over 31.

    Not what you’d expect by reputation. But other players have always loved him. Jokic asked for him.

    Hes gotta have among the greatest discrepancies between peer and fan admiration in sports.
    It’s likely inspiring to see wb going in all of the time. The issue with what you listed is none of those teams had a chance. When the game requires smart decision making opposed to raw energy, like deep in playoffs, I dunno how well wb shines. His stats might even look good, but he looked like ass to me. Maybe he’a more mature now. Bet not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin View Post
    Denver's offense is currently 4th in the NBA at 118.4 ORtg and +5.3 rORtg. That's the best offense they've had in the Jokic era.
    Lesse if they win 50 games.

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    I've been told that Westbrook is one of the worst role players in NBA history. Maybe those people that said it had an agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin View Post
    Denver's offense is currently 4th in the NBA at 118.4 ORtg and +5.3 rORtg. That's the best offense they've had in the Jokic era.
    It seems picking him up has been good for them so far. The retard below you is a flaming homosexual btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak View Post
    It’s likely inspiring to see wb going in all of the time. The issue with what you listed is none of those teams had a chance. When the game requires smart decision making opposed to raw energy, like deep in playoffs, I dunno how well wb shines. His stats might even look good, but he looked like ass to me. Maybe he’a more mature now. Bet not.

    -Smak
    I don’t see George, KD, or Harden with rings on any team that didn’t win them without them and Jokic has one in ten years. Simple truth is most great players don’t win but not winning is only attributed to the style of a certain type.

    You give John Stockton an mvp caliber always healthy and available running mate…an additional all star…a 6th man of the year…and a DPOY. They go out in the first round. There is no “They didn’t have a chance. Wonder if it’s the point guard?”. No matter how many awful playoff letdowns they have.

    It just doesn’t feeeeeel like it could be because of that.

    And it wasn’t.

    But we aren’t really talking results. People who aren’t blamed have Westbrook like team results all the time to little criticism of how they play.

    there’s really nothing to criticize in Kevin Durant’s game but he’s been in the league 17 years and only won anything Westbrook hasn’t when he was on a team that did it before and after him.

    KD, Harden, and Kyrie got together and didn’t do shit either.

    So much can happen in a season it just doesn’t always come down to how individually good your players are. Winning takes both the right team…then 10 things that could go wrong not going wrong…and then getting lucky enough nobody else has both the team and the luck to make it a fair fight.

    Russ is nowhere on the list of guys who had the most talented teams and didn’t win.

    Dudes like Nash and Paul have been skating by with epic lineups that did nothing for decades.

    Guys like Russ just….feeeeeel more responsible for it. End result?

    Hes had a pretty normal second or third tier legend career. And that’s what he is. I don’t think his biggest fans have him as some elite among elites.

    Hes your run of the mill legend. Great. But no so great he’s supposed to be leading dynasties.

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