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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas View Post
    You don't think I've met Masons? Me of all people? You don't think I've spoken to these people and had discussions about it?

    What do you think I'm like wanting these people dead? Jesus.


    If you're going to continuously disregard my point about the anti-masonic party... and why that political movement gained popularity....

    The existence of an anti-masonic party in the 1800s means nothing to me, and it shouldn't mean anything to you. I can see they only existed for two short spurts and it looks like only in New York and Pennsylvania.

    I mean today we have a Church of Satan that opposes the corruption of religion and supports individualism, does that mean something to you?

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    The existence of an anti-masonic party in the 1800s means nothing to me, and it shouldn't mean anything to you.

    again, nobody knows what the f*ck a Mason is, so nobody is ever going to know that the anti-masonic party ever existed... but it was kind of a big deal at the time it was around.

    You have no idea what happens within the fraternal order of Freemasonry... and that's because it's based on secret oaths and secret codes... Masons carrying out those secret proceedings are usually pretty important people in today's world. If you think that's a good thing to have mixed in with politics & justice then you lack common sense. But then again, maybe I'm wrong, because supposedly Masons are the grand architect of the world we live in today... maybe the civilized world we live in today is the best the Masons could do to guide humanity in the right direction. I'm sure the Masons do have good intentions but that's what the path to hell is paved with.

    It's important to remember that the country was founded on Masonic Principles... Most people think it was founded on Christianity, but it was really the Masons that founded America. They founded NASA too.

    Also important to note that the Catholic Church opposes Freemasonry

    The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a declaration on the Freemasons within the same year, clarifying that despite a change in the wording, there has been no change to the Church’s opposition to Freemasonry and that joining any Masonic association is still a grave sin that bars one from receiving Communion.

    “Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden,” the document reads. “The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive holy Communion.”

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    Bill gates spent his whole day getting prison raped by doom

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    You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.

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    You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.

    I am Batman.
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    You just ignore my questions and points and posts movie scenes. Because your fantastical idea of what masons are comes from Hollywood movies.

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    I don't feel like going another 12 rounds today... The bottom line is Masonry is based on secrecy,... which is not ideal for politics if your hope is to have a transparent government.

    It's not rocket-science.


    The same cannot be said for almost every other religion.... you don't have to become a Christian, Jew, or Muslim to understand what it's all about. You literally have to become a Mason to know what Masonry is... because once again, it's based on secrets.

    if you don't see a problem with our Government, Military, and Major Business plagued with secret oath keeping, secret handshaking Masons... Then you might as well subscribe to the idea that ignorance is bliss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas View Post
    I don't feel like going another 12 rounds today... The bottom line is Masonry is based on secrecy,... which is not ideal for politics if your hope is to have a transparent government.

    It's not rocket-science.


    The same cannot be said for almost every other religion.... you don't have to become a Christian, Jew, or Muslim to understand what it's all about. You literally have to become a Mason to know what Masonry is... because once again, it's based on secrets.

    if you don't see a problem with our Government, Military, and Major Business plagued with secret oath keeping, secret handshaking Masons... Then you might as well subscribe to the idea that ignorance is bliss.
    Okay, but my entire point was that bad men will meet in secret and do bad things with or without whatever frat or country club they are a part of. Greedy powerful men are going to try and do greedy things no matter what. Banning freemasonry wouldn't prevent secrets from happening. It is not rocket-science. You're pointing your finger at the wrong place.

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    Okay, but my entire point was that bad men will meet in secret and do bad things with or without whatever frat or country club they are a part of. Greedy powerful men are going to try and do greedy things no matter what. Banning freemasonry wouldn't prevent secrets from happening. It is not rocket-science. You're pointing your finger at the wrong place.

    No, it's actually common sense that you wouldn't want a secret society dominating politics & government.... Is there any stopping it at this point? No there is not... But at one point in time, they tried.


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    Why would the anti-masonic party want to keep Masons out of public office? Why? Why?

    It's not rocket science to answer that question.

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    Why would the anti-masonic party want to keep Masons out of public office? Why? Why?

    It's not rocket science to answer that question.
    From what I am reading they claimed there was corruption, as you are now. But that was nearly 200 years ago

    It's literally the exact same thing as Republicans saying Democrats are corrupt and vice-versa.

    Every opposing party claims the other side is corrupt.

    But freemasonry was MUCH more common back then (as you can see from the video in the OP). So an anti-mason group is much more logical for those times.

    But also this party you are doing back flips over only existed in 2 states.

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    From what I am reading they claimed there was corruption, as you are now. But that was nearly 200 years ago

    It's literally the exact same thing as Republicans saying Democrats are corrupt and vice-versa. But freemasonry was MUCH more common back then (as you can see from the video in the OP). So an anti-mason group is much more logical for those times.

    But also this party you are doing back flips over only existed in 2 states.

    This is what happens when you get your information from Wikipedia.

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    This is what happens when you get your information from Wikipedia.
    All any of us can do is use the internet. But which part of that do you dispute?

    Dooms is getting his info from movie clips

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    My video being old is part of the point, the same mindsets that led to Nazi Germany can be seen today.

    and just to get the last word in...

    It was the far left that was going full fascist against Trump supporters and Conservatives.

    Go put on a MAGA hat and walk around the city... see how far you get before you get attacked.



    The truth is the the far left has become the party of intolerance... and promoting false fears of the white supremacist boogeyman.

    It's the woke liberal that has turned into exact thing that they are supposedly against.... I don't think it was folks on the right that started this ridiculous cancel culture.

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    Great film OP, pretty interesting how the antagonist clearly states his opinion that established and legal citizens from within the nation are the alleged enemies of said nation. Certainly a problematic perspective, as these are law abiding citizens fully documented and part of our system that were minding their own business before being pushed under the bus.

    Very different from say, a viewpoint of not wanting unvetted, undocumented peoples whom are legal citizens only from completely different nations that actually snuck into our own nation without trying to get caught since that isn't nor has ever been a legal act, and are straining the daily lives of our own legal population of citizens as they compete for our same resources and commit crimes against us. This completely separate issue from the film that was posted is basically trying to stop an ongoing undocumented, and already unlawful invasion.

    The only way a person would conflate these two things is if they felt undocumented peoples from other nations had just as much a right to our incredibly expensive and hard fought liberties as the people who are legal citizens here. Morons, would be a good term to describe these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopanonymous View Post
    Great film OP, pretty interesting how the antagonist clearly states his opinion that established and legal citizens from within the nation are the alleged enemies of said nation. Certainly a problematic perspective, as these are law abiding citizens fully documented and part of our system that were minding their own business before being pushed under the bus.

    Very different from say, a viewpoint of not wanting unvetted, undocumented peoples whom are legal citizens only from completely different nations that actually snuck into our own nation without trying to get caught since that isn't nor has ever been a legal act, and are straining the daily lives of our own legal population of citizens as they compete for our same resources and commit crimes against us. This completely separate issue from the film that was posted is basically trying to stop an ongoing undocumented, and already unlawful invasion.

    The only way a person would conflate these two things is if they felt undocumented peoples from other nations had just as much a right to our incredibly expensive and hard fought liberties as the people who are legal citizens here. Morons, would be a good term to describe these people.
    He literally says "alien foreigners"

    Morons would describe people who actually think a document makes any sort of real tangible difference.

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