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Learning to shoot layups
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
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-primetime-
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by LBJ 4 MVP
How the hell is Dirk higher than Steve Nash?
And Ed Macauley should have made this list, take Big Ben out.
Dirk is more dominate than Nash
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-primetime-
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
this list should be a sticky or something...
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Good High School Starter
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Thank God. I stopped voting after a while because I tired of being told my opinion held no value.
Someone sticky this.
Edit - I voted for Chris Mullin somewhere in the 70s I think. It's weird that I was dismissed for that, yet he ends up coming it at #83.
The most out-of-place player to me is Dennis Rodman. He should have been much lower in my opinion.
Last edited by Selenium; 10-06-2007 at 02:38 AM.
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Serious playground baller
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by ForceofNature
#47. Dennis Rodman - Probably the worst selection of the entire list. Yes, he owns rebounding titles, but he is just not as good as some people who didn't even make this list!
Who not on the list was greater?
Glen Rice
Larry Johnson
Bill Laimbeer
Rodman was certainly better than these 3 you mentioned as having should have made this list. Laimbeer had a good case to make this list, and he was probably more important to the 2 Pistons championships than Rodman. Rice and Johnson weren't great enough, though.
Originally Posted by kidachi
#45 - rodman (why is he even there?)
Originally Posted by Selenium
The most out-of-place player to me is Dennis Rodman. He should have been much lower in my opinion.
Defense is just as important to basketball as offense. Dennis Rodman was one of the greatest defensive players in NBA history; he was arguably the greatest forward ever defensively.
Basketball is a game of possessions; you can't score unless you have the ball. Rebounds create posessions. Rodman was one of the greatest rebounders ever--top 3 at least.
Rodman wasn't useless on offense, either; he was an especially good passer. And, his man couldn't leave him due to Rodman's offensive rebounding ability.
Look at some of the all-time great players offensively, but who weren't good defensively, who made this list, like Elgin Baylor (#14), Charles Barkley (#21), George Gervin (#34), Steve Nash (#49), Pete Maravich (#52), etc. What's wrong, then, with having an all-time great defensive player, who wasn't so good offensively, on this list, as well. Rodman, after all, isn't even the only such player on this list. Bill Russell (#6), Wes Unseld (#40), Dave DeBusschere (#67), Dikembe Mutombo (#80), etc. weren't big scorers, either. All-time greats aren't just scorers and so-called first options; they're also team players, great defenders, passers and rebounders.
Elliott Kalb in his ranking of the 50 Greatest Players, had Rodman at #30. Slam Magazine had him ranked #69. TNT in their Next 10 special nearly included him, and I recall Kenny Smith seemed to indicate that Rodman should've been included.
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Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
wow did someone just compare Larry Johnson to Rodman??
im not even sure Larry Johnson would make the ISH top 200 list
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Very good NBA starter
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
omfg... no Jack Sikma???!!!
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by Korki Buchek
Also, George Mikan and Bob Cousy are way too high, while Dr. J. is a little too high. These 3 should all be in top 15, maybe top 10 on a "the 100 players that meant most to the game of basketball" list, but Cousy as the 23rd GREATEST player of all time? Sorry, that's just flat out inaccurate.
Why weren't these guys great, because they played in a different era?
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Smooth Like Butter
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by -primetime-
yeah you said I keep overlapping your facts with my opinions...
well?...like I said, what else can I do?
Understand the facts and accept them?
That's like saying "This car is faster, and I have the stats to prove it." Yet you continue to say "I think the other car is faster", when all the facts show completely otherwise.
How the hell is Dirk higher than Steve Nash?
And Ed Macauley should have made this list, take Big Ben out.
There's no reason Nash > Dirk, at all. Dirk is better.
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10-08-2007, 12:27 AM
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Local High School Star
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Is this a good idea or not?
Some of the smart voters in this need to get together and vote again. Posters like Kizzle, D-Fence, and others who have a good sense of history, and they should go around and do this
It will give us a good look
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10-08-2007, 12:30 AM
#101
Rational on Kobe
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by IceMan2
Is this a good idea or not?
Some of the smart voters in this need to get together and vote again. Posters like Kizzle, D-Fence, and others who have a good sense of history, and they should go around and do this
It will give us a good look
And how do we decide who's "smart"
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10-08-2007, 12:30 AM
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Good High School Starter
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by IceMan2
Is this a good idea or not?
Some of the smart voters in this need to get together and vote again. Posters like Kizzle, D-Fence, and others who have a good sense of history, and they should go around and do this
It will give us a good look
I don't know, it's agreed that nobody's exactly happy with it. That sounds like democracy to me.
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10-08-2007, 12:32 AM
#103
Local High School Star
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by ALlArOuNDPIaya
And how do we decide who's "smart"
People who have contributed positively the most or L.Kizzle can decide since this was his idea....he can choose who should do it again...its actually all up to him
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10-08-2007, 12:42 AM
#104
Decent college freshman
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Ben Wallace, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen should not be on the list IMO...maybe the only one i can see a case for is Allen.
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10-08-2007, 12:58 AM
#105
F*ck off, Randy
Re: The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH
Originally Posted by lurch67
My beef is Barkley at 21 while Rodman is at 47. Yeah, Barkley put up more points, but Rodman was a part of 2 dynasties and had more boards. Basketball is more than just offense.
THANK YOU!!!!!
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