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    Default Re: Riley did it again!

    Riles is so underrated as a GM/President, I guess because he's a coach. But he makes great moves. He added the extra firepower they needed, and athletic type so that they can maybe keep up with the younger more athletic teams, where Posey and Walker were too old. Should Williams stay healthy, they should be able to get up the court because Haslem even is rather good in that dept. It all depends on Shaq staying healthy though when it comes to how far they can go.

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by saKf
    Having those expiring contracts doesn't mean much if they're still going to be starting out the summer at $52 million.

    Unless the salary cap jumps up to close to $70 million (which absolutely will not happen), the Heat won't have the money to make a real big splash unless a star takes a big paycut.

    I don't even count the regular cap anymore really since more then 3/4 of league teams are never under it during a calendar year.

    The real cap is the luxury cap. Which the Heat should be at least 12-15 million under. Much more flexibility.

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by aj242
    I don't even count the regular cap anymore really since more then 3/4 of league teams are never under it during a calendar year.

    The real cap is the luxury cap. Which the Heat should be at least 12-15 million under. Much more flexibility.
    Do you know how anything works?

    If you're over the cap, the only things with which you have to sign free agents are the MLE, LLE and minimum contracts. That gives a team nowhere near $12-15 million of flexibility.

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    Default Re: Riley did it again!

    Quote Originally Posted by saKf
    Go to h o o p s h y p e.com/salaries/miami.htm

    That'll show you what I'm talking about.
    My bad...

    Quote Originally Posted by mayorhoiberg
    You guys are all fools.

    This trade makes perfect sense for Minnesota. McHale is a moron, but not for the reasons you think.

    Ricky and Blount had no purpose on the Timberwolves this season. They would have only served to get in the way of the younger, developing players behind them.

    You do realize that Minnesota got a FIRST ROUND PICK for these two, right?

    A FIRST ROUND PICK for MARK BLOUNT AND RICKY DAVIS?!

    This is a good trade for both teams.
    This trade kind of remind me of all that trades Isiah did that, that didn't brought nothing to the Knicks at that moment, (Jalen, Malik, Nzar), but all of them brought a 1st round pick, and we all know who those picks turn to be.

    People are really short-sighted. Minnesota will still have a good cap situation next season, and in 2 seasons they will have again a good cap situation, now with a extra 1st round pick.

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by saKf
    Do you know how anything works?

    If you're over the cap, the only things with which you have to sign free agents are the MLE, LLE and minimum contracts. That gives a team nowhere near $12-15 million of flexibility.
    I know how the cap works moron. You can do sign & trades & use your expirings to gives you flexibility all the way up to the Luxury tax Cap.

    That is the true cap in the NBA.

    If the Heat have 52 million comitted next year & the luxury cap was 67.5 million this year. The Heat would have 15 million in flexbility utilitzing the abvoe mentioned with the MLE & LLE.

    That's assuming the Luxury cap stays where it is which it won't. It's more then likely will increase with league revenue.

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by FireMcFailPlease

    they dont think about how bad of a defender ricky is
    Ricky is actually one of the best perimeter defenders in the league...atleast he was a few years ago

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by aj242
    I know how the cap works moron. You can do sign & trades & use your expirings to gives you flexibility all the way up to the Luxury tax Cap.

    That is the true cap in the NBA.

    If the Heat have 52 million comitted next year & the luxury cap was 67.5 million this year. The Heat would have 15 million in flexbility utilitzing the abvoe mentioned with the MLE & LLE.

    That's assuming the Luxury cap stays where it is which it won't. It's more then likely will increase with league revenue.
    They wouldn't be able to give nearly that entire $15 million in "flexibility" to one player, making it quite difficult to acquire another big star.

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel J
    Ricky is actually one of the best perimeter defenders in the league...atleast he was a few years ago
    At least in the passing lanes. And man on when he wants to be, though he's not all consistnet

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    T-Wolves officially the new team in D-League/WNBA?

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    Default Re: Trade is official! Heat, Wolves swap Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, others

    If they can find a good place to deal Walker and get a real veteran leader, then they should look like a decent rebuilding team.

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    Default Re: Heat & Wolves close to a deal(via ESPN).....

    I kno i'm extremely late right ...BUT talk about how i called this sammme exact deal and some of u guys bashed me

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