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04-03-2008, 01:10 AM
#1171
What set you claim?
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Now that Kobe has 2/3's of his frontline, expect him to return to his level of play from February.
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04-03-2008, 02:05 AM
#1172
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Also, about the East-West thing... I believe BOTH the Cavs and Lakers have better winning percentages against the West than they do against the East.
lakers are 14-9 against the west top 8 .609
cavs' 5-11 .313
lakers are 9-7 against the east top 8 .563
cavs 12-11 .511
Last edited by gts; 04-03-2008 at 02:08 AM.
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04-03-2008, 02:30 AM
#1173
In DUKE mode
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
well kobe cdertainly helped his case tonight 36 pts on 10-16 shooting 13 boards and 7 assists........
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04-03-2008, 03:25 AM
#1174
The Paterfamilias
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by gts
lakers are 14-9 against the west top 8 .609
cavs' 5-11 .313
lakers are 9-7 against the east top 8 .563
cavs 12-11 .511
Come on, gts...
You are missing the point. Obviously, team records aren't going to be as good against the best teams as they are against the worst teams. However, the argument of East v. West includes BOTH very good teams and very poor teams. I don't see how these statistics prove my statement any less valid.
I will also note that a team may have been in the top 8 when the Cavs played them (Golden State and Portland, for example) and have since dropped out. To me, it is how well a team is playing at the time of the game, not how well they are playing now.
If we really want to start splitting hairs like this, the Cavs are 2-0 against the Lakers.
Last edited by RedBlackAttack; 04-03-2008 at 03:28 AM.
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04-03-2008, 03:47 AM
#1175
10 plus years on ISH
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Can we please bring all the stupid Kobe threads in here please.
Just bring them all in here...all the vs. crap.....all the MVP crap....everything and make this the ultimate Kobe thread!!!
Mod please!!!!
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04-03-2008, 03:56 PM
#1176
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
mike tirico sp* on espn is a MVP voter, and today they were discussing the MVP award in general and he read the ballot
i'm paraphrasing here but you'll get the idea...
it says something like this
" thank you, you have been selected to take part in voting for the NBA's most valuble player award, please submit your 5 choices"
10 points for 1st
7 for 2nd
5 for 3rd
3 for 4th
2 for 5th
thats it no, gudelines no nothing, just a welcome note. 5 empty lines and a return envelope
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04-03-2008, 09:15 PM
#1177
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by gts
mike tirico sp* on espn is a MVP voter, and today they were discussing the MVP award in general and he read the ballot
i'm paraphrasing here but you'll get the idea...
it says something like this
" thank you, you have been selected to take part in voting for the NBA's most valuble player award, please submit your 5 choices"
10 points for 1st
7 for 2nd
5 for 3rd
3 for 4th
2 for 5th
thats it no, gudelines no nothing, just a welcome note. 5 empty lines and a return envelope
10 points for LeBron James
7 points for Chris Paul
5 points for Amare Stoudemire
3 points for Tim Duncan
2 points for Kevin Garnett
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04-03-2008, 11:16 PM
#1178
Very good NBA starter
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by 5 2 3 5
MVPs cannot be outplayed by Larry Hughes at home.
Kobe got outplayed by J-Rich at home last week
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04-03-2008, 11:34 PM
#1179
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Yes! Great Point! Cavs are 2-0 against the Lakers.
Question: When Kobe and James meet, King James comes out on top.
King James is my vote for MVP.
I'm not a gambler. But if I were, I'd bet on LeBron against Kobe in a one-one-match. The score would be 20-14.
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04-03-2008, 11:35 PM
#1180
What set you claim?
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by konex
Kobe got outplayed by J-Rich at home last week
Yup, and Rondo arguably outplayed Paul in their last meeting. You can't win every battle.
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04-03-2008, 11:36 PM
#1181
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Larry Huges was on tonight. That happens once a month, maybe.
If he would have played that well last year in the playoffs, the Cavs could have beat the Spurs.
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04-03-2008, 11:41 PM
#1182
The Paterfamilias
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by KenneBell
Yup, and Rondo arguably outplayed Paul in their last meeting. You can't win every battle.
Exactly... which was the point to counter the 'Larry Hughes' comment.
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04-04-2008, 12:13 AM
#1183
Not airballing my layups anymore
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
The score would be 20-14.
Will I win the lottery on Sunday too?
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04-04-2008, 12:25 AM
#1184
What set you claim?
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Exactly... which was the point to counter the 'Larry Hughes' comment.
Pretty much. I don't believe in one or two recent games determining who's going to win this award.
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04-04-2008, 04:01 PM
#1185
The Paterfamilias
Re: Lebron James vs Kobe Bryant, in the season, in MVP talk, more
Originally Posted by 5 2 3 5
Richardson is a very good player. I don't think you'd find one Bobcats fan who would deal him straight up for Ben Wallace and be happy about it. He isn't considered a disgrace to his franchise (what many Cavs fans have said). He doesn't have a website asking him to stop taking so many dumb shots. None of that stuff. Hughes, on the other hand, was considered by Cavs fans to be an absolute scrub who was hurting the team more than helping.
He also would occasionally have a superb game, which made us even madder, because we would wonder why he couldn't duplicate that kind of performance more than once-a-month.
The tragedy with Hughes isn't that he is a bad player... it is that he teases you, often times, with a great game, only to revert back to the brick layer that he is 99% of the time.
He is actually shooting a lower percentage in Chicago than he did in Cleveland. That is sad and I feel for Bulls' fans (honestly... I do) that they have to put up with his arse.
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