Amare Stoudemire or Dwight Howard?

[VCMVP1551]

This is instant Offense vs Instant Defense.

Dwight is closer to Amare' Offense than Amare is closer to Dwight's defensive abilities like rebounding and blocking

That's not true. Amare is much closer to Dwight's defense than Dwight is to Amare's offense.

Amare is a top 3-5 offensive big man in the league while Dwight is not a top 3-5 defensive big man.

As for Amare's rebounding, he isn't near Dwight period but he has played with much better rebounders. Regardless Amare wouldn't approach Dwight's averages of 12-14 boards but still he'd probably be over 10 per game.

In Amare's rookie season he played with Shawn Marion(9.5 per game), in Amare's sophomore season Marion averaged 9.3 per game, in Amare's 3rd season Marion averaged 11.3 per game. In 2006-2007 Marion averaged 9.8 boards and last year Marion averaged 9.9 before his trade to Miami anbd Shaq came in and averaged 10.6 after the trade to Phoenix.

[omarnyc]

Amare is a career 20/9 player not 20/10

Dwight also had good rebounders before like Tony Battie

amare career stats...21.0 pts, 9.1 rebs

dwight howard's career stats...16.5 pts, 12.2 rebs

howard is a true center while amare is a pf, i still wanna know what makes dwight so much better in your opinion.

tony battie career stats...6.7 pts, 5.6 rebs , im kinda mad you even mentioned him.

[LutherHeadJob]

yao's name been in the debate i didnt bring him in it, you stated that dwight is a better PLAYER then amare because he out rebounds him, so if thats the case why dont the same apply to a much bigger yao? amare has played with marion his whole career, and now he has shaq, how many other teams have 2 players getting 10+ boards a game?

Gee you are one dumb****

How many players rebound with their head? ****ing moron, go watch some basketball beofre typing.

[DreamYaoTmac5]

Gee you are one dumb****

How many players rebound with their head? ****ing moron, go watch some basketball beofre typing.

[statman32]

Gee you are one dumb****

How many players rebound with their head? ****ing moron, go watch some basketball beofre typing.

Well Yao Mings wingspan is about 5 inches longer than Amares. If you dont think that is beneficial when it comes to rebounding, you are mistaken.

[LutherHeadJob]

Well Yao Mings wingspan is about 5 inches longer than Amares. If you dont think that is beneficial when it comes to rebounding, you are mistaken.

Yao is slow, a stiff and has slow reaction times. And he does average more boards than Amare.

Edit. And Yao has a 0.5 inch vertical.

[WildStyle]

Dwight is not a top 3-5 defensive big man.

He isn't? I'd like to see your rankings.

[DreamYaoTmac5]

Yao is slow, a stiff and has slow reaction times. And he does average more boards than Amare.

Edit. And Yao has a 0.5 inch vertical.

he actually has a legit 20+ inch vert, but just bringing it out there

[VCMVP1551]

He isn't? I'd like to see your rankings.

Ok

In no order these guys are better defenders than Dwight.

Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Marcus Camby, Tyson Chandler, Samuel Dalembert, Emeka Okafor, Rasheed Wallace, Kendrick Perkins and even Shaq played better defense than Dwight after the trade to Phoenix.

Dwight doesn't play shut down defense. He isn't a very good 1 on 1 defender.

By the way Amare's wingspan is 7'2" while Yao's is just under 7'5".

[DreamYaoTmac5]

Ok

In no order these guys are better defenders than Dwight.

Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Marcus Camby, Tyson Chandler, Samuel Dalembert, Emeka Okafor, Rasheed Wallace, Kendrick Perkins and even Shaq played better defense than Dwight after the trade to Phoenix.

Dwight doesn't play shut down defense. He isn't a very good 1 on 1 defender.

By the way Amare's wingspan is 7'2" while Yao's is just under 7'5".

lol, you put those guys above of Yao? Perkins, Dalembert Okafor and Rasheed?

I would say Dwight is a top 5 defensive big man at most.

[statman32]

Yao is slow, a stiff and has slow reaction times. And he does average more boards than Amare.

Edit. And Yao has a 0.5 inch vertical.

Slow,stiff,slow reaction times/0.5 vertical?

I've never seen somebody diss there fav player so much. Not to mention none of that is true.

[DreamYaoTmac5]

Slow,stiff,slow reaction times/0.5 vertical?

I've never seen somebody diss there fav player so much. Not to mention none of that is true.

It's an expression obviously.

[statman32]

lol, you put those guys above of Yao? Perkins, Dalembert Okafor and Rasheed?

I would say Dwight is a top 5 defensive big man at most.

I would take Perkins of the list along with Shaq because of Shaqs inabilty to guard a simple p&r but everyone else has a legit argument for being as good or better defender than Dwight.

And Rasheed is a top3 pf/c defender. No doubt in my mind.

[VCMVP1551]

lol, you put those guys above of Yao? Perkins, Dalembert Okafor and Rasheed?

I would say Dwight is a top 5 defensive big man at most.

Perkins is an excellent defender. Just because he isn't a big name doesn't mean he isn't one of the better defensive big men. Sheed shut down Dwight in the 2nd round of the playoffs and has gotten a reputation as an excellent defender for a reason. Dalembert and Okafor have been underrated as well.

Dwight is not even close to a top 5 defensive big men. Yao is a better defender than Dwight. Yao has shut down top big men including Dwight who he has flat out embarrassed.

Yao and Dwight head to head(7 games)
Yao- 24.3 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.1 apg, 2.3 bpg, 55.0 FG%
Dwight- 12.0 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 0.9 apg, 1.4 bpg, 44.3 FG%

[statman32]

It's an expression obviously.

What the hell are you talking about?