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Old 09-24-2007, 04:04 PM   #16
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Default Re: that JO to the Lakers non-trade

im in agreement with berg.

lakers should have pounced on that deal.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:17 PM   #17
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Default Re: that JO to the Lakers non-trade

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Bynum been a bust so far? wtf are you talking about?

The guy averaged 2 mins/gm his rookie season. He is suddenly put in as starter last year with Kwame/Mihm out and actually showed some nice things. Late in the season, he kind of broke down...again, it was essentially his rookie season. He averaged 8/6 and 1.5 blocks in 22 mins/gm; you wanna call that a bust when the kid is only 19?



JO's first two years:
10.2 MPG (avg 4/3 and 0.6 blocks on 45%)
13.5 MPG (avg 4/3 and 1 block on 48%)

He was 19 and 20 yrs old

Bynum's first two years:
2.0 MPG (avg 2/2)
21.9 MPG (avg 8/6 and 1.6 blocks on 56%)

He was 18 and 19 yrs old.

Look if you want to predict that Bynum wont be as good as O'neal or will flat out not get anywhere...go ahead but to label him a bust at this stage is just ignorant.


You bring up good points, Laker fan. I guess we should give Bynum more time. Hate to say it, but I will man up and say it: hotsizzle just owned me.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:24 PM   #18
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Default Re: that JO to the Lakers non-trade

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You bring up good points, Laker fan. I guess we should give Bynum more time. Hate to say it, but I will man up and say it: hotsizzle just owned me.
It takes a man of courage to admit his defeat.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:09 PM   #19
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has progressed way faster than Jermaine O'Neal did at that age.
This is a ridiculous statement. Oneal was allowed to develop behind one of the best frontcourt rotations in the modern nba (sabonis - arguably the best modern center, wallace, Grant back when he was the Rasta Monster and a deep deep team). those jailblazers were probably the deepest team in the last 15+ years. Their 6-10 was better than a number of teams starting units.

Whereas Bynum has had to come in and play due to the lack of his teams quality at the 5. Hes obviously very raw and you dont work on that in the game. Hopefully he will continue to grow under kareem, but he went from being a kid with a couple of years of organized ball to being taught by kareem? There are a couple of educational steps missing there. If the lakers had been able to, I bet they would have used him as a practice player with occasional D-league stints until he understands the savvy of the game better. Great instincts, good size, athletic, but you dont learn the game by being thrust into an important oncourt role. It is generally better to make your young prospect learn it by going against sabonis, wallace, etc in practive everyday. What quality bigs does he run against in practice? Aside from his 50 yr old bigman coach?
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It takes a man of courage to admit his defeat.

If he had done anything less given the circumstances, he might have been banned.... lol



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Old 09-24-2007, 11:12 PM   #21
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Bynum been a bust so far? wtf are you talking about?

JO's first two years:
10.2 MPG (avg 4/3 and 0.6 blocks on 45%)
13.5 MPG (avg 4/3 and 1 block on 48%)

He was 19 and 20 yrs old

Bynum's first two years:
2.0 MPG (avg 2/2)
21.9 MPG (avg 8/6 and 1.6 blocks on 56%)

He was 18 and 19 yrs old.

Look if you want to predict that Bynum wont be as good as O'neal or will flat out not get anywhere...go ahead but to label him a bust at this stage is just ignorant.
I wholeheartedly agree. But I think the numbers reinforce my point. Bynum was forced into a larger role (whether through injury or whatever) that was really good for him. In the long run, especially with his limited pre-nba organized bball experience, I think that will hurt him.
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