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Our lord and saviour
Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
Guy went from 10 PPG to 20PPG.
I know he's a sophomore, but if it doesn't hurt Fox's case, why should it hurt his?
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Titles are overrated
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
I dont think it has much to do with him. Fox is on a 500 team in the west that is playing above expectations. Collins team is...whatever the Hawks are.
I like him a lot. And im sure he will get a lot of votes. He might even win. But the media isnt gonna zero in too much on him. Its hard talking up two young guys on a 20 whatever win team. Trae is the guard. Hes gonna get the love these days even though Collins is the best player on the team.
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2010-2020
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
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National High School Star
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
 Originally Posted by AirTupac
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
Now hang on Doofus, I swear you were pushing for Ingram for MIP in his 2nd season...
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Our lord and saviour
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
 Originally Posted by AirTupac
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
That's a fair point,
So why was Fox the frontrunner the whole year until Siakam surged?
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JT
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
Sophomores shouldn't be in MIP conversations, they're SUPPOSED to be better than their rookie year. It's something we expect from basically all rookies.
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Bitch Hands
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
It should be Siakam, but I have him right there. Trae gets more press, but Collins is our best player right now.
I'm a Hawks fan btw.
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Cavs Fan ® 1997
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
Siakam
Went from 51% FG% to 55% FG%
Went from 22% 3P% to 36% 3P%
Went from 62% FT% to 77 FT%
Went from 7.3 PPG to 16.4 PPG
Went from 4.5 RPG to 7.0 RPG
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2010-2020
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
 Originally Posted by Sportal
Now hang on Doofus, I swear you were pushing for Ingram for MIP in his 2nd season... 
No i didnt you stupid incel retard
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
Fair point but going against Siakam seems insurmountable.
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NBA Junkie!
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
 Originally Posted by Meticode
Siakam
Went from 51% FG% to 55% FG%
Went from 22% 3P% to 36% 3P%
Went from 62% FT% to 77 FT%
Went from 7.3 PPG to 16.4 PPG
Went from 4.5 RPG to 7.0 RPG
Don't forget he went from a bench player to a starter, and he's a huge piece of one of the best teams in the league and has to play against opponents best effort nightly.
He's got MIP locked up methinks.
Last edited by Phenith; 03-14-2019 at 10:35 AM.
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Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
There's no problem with sophomore getting MIP, as evidenced by Monta Ellis winning it in his sophomore season.
My frontrunner for MIP is Nikola Vucevic. I think he deserved it the most.
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The Puppeteer
Re: Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
 Originally Posted by AirTupac
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
....Which would be their sophomore year
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