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Lol
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by 3ball
I'll be putting a video out in March with my handles and dunking at 44 years old
Again, facts only itt
The last time you posted a video it looked like you surreptitiously filmed some local guys at the park and tried to pass off the tallest guy as being you
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Not airballing my layups anymore
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by 3ball
I'll be putting a video out in March with my handles and dunking at 44 years old
Again, facts only itt
Still recovering from the knee replacement? Get well brother
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Banned
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by 3ball
I'll be putting a video out in March with my handles and dunking at 44 years old
Again, facts only itt
Will Zach Randolph be making an appearance?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by warriorfan
Will Zach Randolph be making an appearance?
He can get it again if he wants
I'll try to get a hold of his brother Hippy to see if Zach is down.
They're both friends on facebook but I doubt Zach responds much.
I haven't been on Facebook in many years but I can still give it a shot
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Decent college freshman
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Only 17 players in history have scored more playoff points than Scottie Pippen.
On top of that Pippen also put up more playoff steals, more playoff blocks, more playoff assists, more playoff rebounds and more threes than Jordan.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by RRR3
The last time you posted a video it looked like you surreptitiously filmed some local guys at the park and tried to pass off the tallest guy as being you
FINAL GOAT THEORY
Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options and Jordan has 4 more rings with 2nd options than anyone else in history
everyone in history needed an equal-scoring partner (1b) for half of their rings except the goat, who won 6 rings with a true 2nd option that averaged far less.
Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced "1-man team" defensive attention for his entire career, (thus giving maximum integrity to his stats and rings).. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here.
Ultimately, everyone in history that won 3 Finals needed a teammate to win FMVP or average 25 ppg for at least one of the Finals.. But Pippen is 0/6 in FMVP and peaked at 21 ppg, so only Jordan could win 3 with Pippen or 3-peat.
Furthermore, every "sidekick" in 3-pointer history with 2 rings was #1 option on a champion, except Pippen and Gasol
Kareem (80', 85')
McHale (86')
Worthy (87', 88')
T Parker (07')
Dumars (89')
Kobe (02')
Curry (15')
Wade (06', 11')
So Pippen played worse than other 2nd options but he also played on the only 2-star dynasty - so he got dynasty credit without having to share shine with 3rd and 4th stars, which greatly inflated his accolades..
ultimately, he's the only guy whose production rate rank (about 120th) is far lower than his perceived rank - the winning spotlight and 2-star dynasty greatly inflated his trash stats/performance
Specifically, Pippen averaged 19.0 on 42% in 6 Finals overall, and 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs.. He averaged 16 on 40% in 2 Finals, 4 ECF, and the 7 game war in the 92' ECSF. He averaged 12 on 42% against the 88-90' Pistons.. 93' Pippen had a 2.0 BPM with lower PER, WS/48 and paced-adjusted scoring than 14' Wade in the playoffs, aka Jordan had a less productive sidekick for the 3-peat run.
Last edited by 3ball; 02-20-2021 at 09:13 PM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Bron averaged 5 more points than AD in the finals. 13 more points than his second option in 2014 and ~6 more in 2012/2013.
Good call, OP.
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NBA Legend
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
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aUtIsM sPeAkSŪ️
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Looks like op got his adderall script filled just like the welfarefan. Yet again.
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9x All Defensive 1st
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by 3ball
I'll be putting a video out in March with my handles and dunking at 44 years old
Again, facts only itt
so lemme get this all straight
you say you are 44
zach randolph is 39
so you are 5 years older
you say you dunked on sophomore zach randolph, who was 15 or 16
meaning you would have been 20 or 21
so you're saying you were 20 at your college athletic prime and you dunked on a 15 year old? is this your story? :oldol: ????
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Bron averaged 5 more points than AD in the finals. 13 more points than his second option in 2014 and ~6 more in 2012/2013.
Good call, OP.
AD averaged more points than Lebron in the 2020 Playoffs
Wade averaged more in the 2011 Playoffs
Kyrie averaged the same in the 2016 Playoffs
everyone in history needed an equal-scoring partner (1b) for half of their rings except the goat, who won 6 rings with a true 2nd option that averaged far less in every Playoffs.
Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced "1-man team" defensive attention for his entire career, (thus giving maximum integrity to his stats and rings).. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here.
And you aren't understanding that everyone had teammates that led for entire playoff runs, whereas pippen never got within 10 ppg of Jordan in any SERIES.. Jordan averaged 10-30 more than pippen in every series.. no one is remotely close to that, so no one faced even close to the same defensive attention..
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by 3ball
AD averaged more points than Lebron in the 2020 Playoffs
Wade averaged more in the 2011 Playoffs
Kyrie averaged the same in the 2016 Playoffs
everyone in history needed an equal-scoring partner (1b) for half of their rings except the goat, who won 6 rings with a true 2nd option that averaged far less in every Playoffs.
Teammate scoring matters because equal-scoring teammates attract equal defensive attention, so only MJ faced "1-man team" defensive attention for his entire career, (thus giving maximum integrity to his stats and rings).. Kenny Smith talks about MJ being the only 1-man show here.
And you aren't understanding that everyone had teammates that led for entire playoff runs, whereas pippen never got within 10 ppg of Jordan in any SERIES.. Jordan averaged 10-30 more than pippen in every series.. no one is remotely close to that, so no one faced even close to the same defensive attention..
^^^ For the record - an unrefuted post that Kuniva ran from because he has no response due to being wrong
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I go HAM
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
so lemme get this all straight
you say you are 44
zach randolph is 39
so you are 5 years older
you say you dunked on sophomore zach randolph, who was 15 or 16
meaning you would have been 20 or 21
so you're saying you were 20 at your college athletic prime and you dunked on a 15 year old? is this your story? :oldol: ????
OP?
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Doomguy
Re: Rings with 1b's (equal-scoring partner) < rings with 2nd options
So what OP is saying is that this Michael Jordan guy was really good at playing basketball.
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