"Pippen was the best player in the world in 93, 94, 95" - Dennis Rodman

[97 bulls]

Scottie through Jan 30th 96( 42 games) was doing 22/7/6, 50% from the field, 44% from 3. He ended up doing 19/6/5 46%/37%. There was a second half drop off precipitated by nagging injuries. If he was healthy enough in the playoffs as he was in the first half of the year the Bulls would have probably swept the playoffs.

Great job Phoenix. Now that with Jordan taking the lions share of shots, and having the league's leading rebounder on his team. In a slower pace, in a tougher defensive era.

[Phoenix]

Great job Phoenix. Now that with Jordan taking the lions share of shots, and having the league's leading rebounder on his team. In a slower pace, in a tougher defensive era.

Not only swept the playoffs, but probably eclipsed the 72 wins. Ditto for the 97 squad, 69 wins with Rodman and Kukoc missing 25 or so games a piece. Team should have won 75 each season( hell the 98 squad won 62 with Scottie missing 38 games). Very easily could have had two seasons better than the Warriors 2016 season and unlike GS, closing the deal each time.

[3ball]

Scottie through Jan 30th 96( 42 games) was doing 22/7/6, 50% from the field, 44% from 3. He ended up doing 19/6/5 46%/37%. There was a second half drop off precipitated by nagging injuries. If he was healthy enough in the playoffs as he was in the first half of the year the Bulls would have probably swept the playoffs.

^^^ that's the point - Jordan had to deal with an aging Pippen, who averaged 17 on 41% in the 96-98' Playoffs, while old Rodman averaged 4/8 in the 1997 Playoffs and wasn't the starter in 98'...

Otoh, Lebron didn't have to deal with aging teammates and got to refresh his cast every 4 years with the hottest young talent in the league..

It's fraud and the media is complicit in turning the league into WWE.. However, today's short-term, mercenary teamwork/collusions is a lower brand of basketball than the long-term, organic chemistry and identities developed in prior eras.... That's why the ratings are down - it's inferior basketball.

Btw, apparently Pippen was playing to 100% capacity in 1996 before he got hurt, so teammates played to full capacity alongside Jordan.. However, 22/5 isn't sufficient to carry a team, which is why the 95' Bulls were a bummy .500 team before MJ returned and carried them to another 3-peat.

[HoopsNY]

I do remember a Pip for MVP buzz in 96 before he got injured. I don't recall if it was a huge national discussion about it, but I do recall either a few articles about it or it got mentioned by broadcasters during some nationally televised Bulls game. How much of a thing I can't recall, this shit is 25 years old. But I do recall even MJ( by no means short on ego) himself pushing a Pippen4MVP thing at one point. It was a conversation that lost steam once Scottie got injured, but I do know he was damn good up to that point.

Pippen being pushed for MVP overrides David Robinson actually winning an MVP award? I'm not saying you're saying this, but 97 bulls clearly is making the case that Pippen > Robinson between 1994-96. I can't really fathom that, lol.

[HoopsNY]

That's the funny thing. Every players gets a pass due to injury but Pippen. I cant quite figure out where all this vitriol for Pippen is coming from. I mean why does everybody get a pass for being injured but Pippen?

No one is claiming players get a pass. But when you're going to go with All-NBA votes or any voting, then you have to be on the court for them to give you votes.

Here's something to consider. Pippen was All NBA 3rd team in 1998, but he missed 38 games. Do you honestly think if Pippen was healthy that he'd get less votes than Vin Baker (All-NBA 2nd Team)?

My point is that totaling votes for these awards without context does little justice to the discussion.

[3ball]

Pippen being pushed for MVP overrides David Robinson actually winning an MVP award? I'm not saying you're saying this, but 97 bulls clearly is making the case that Pippen > Robinson between 1994-96. I can't really fathom that, lol.

Show me where he was good in the playoffs from 88-90' or 93-03'

Pippen is the worst playoff performer of all time given his ring count

[And1AllDay]

Heres another link where Pippen said he was banged up the last 4 months of the 95-96 season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spo...mp-content=amp

97 bulls is the chicago bulls fans we didnt know we needed around here

he can make me respect mike more

3baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL does the opposite which is funny becos of the agenda he drives

[HoopsNY]

Show me where he was good in the playoffs from 88-90' or 93-03'

Pippen is the worst playoff performer of all time given his ring count

Stay on topic.

[And1AllDay]

Show me where he was good in the playoffs from 88-90' or 93-03'

Pippen is the worst playoff performer of all time given his ring count

quick question to end your agenda and ish career

which #2 option would you trade scottie for? of all the teams you played who are you trading pippen for?

in 97 you trading pip for hornacek?
94 you trading pip for starks?
92 you trading pip for teryr porter?

you get the message baby girrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl

[3ball]

No one is claiming players get a pass. But when you're going to go with All-NBA votes or any voting, then you have to be on the court for them to give you votes.

Here's something to consider. Pippen was All NBA 3rd team in 1998, but he missed 38 games.

Do you honestly think if Pippen was healthy that he'd get less votes than Vin Baker (All-NBA 2nd Team)?

My point is that totaling votes for these awards without context does little justice to the discussion.

Winning rings every year gave Pippen accolades that weren't backed by actual performance, similar to Kobe's all-defense awards - they mean nothing - it's just an association with MJ that overrates Kobe and Pippen with undeserved accolades.

Ultimately, Pippen barely made top 50 all-time in 1996, and dozens of newer guys have passed him since, like Duncan, Kobe, Giannis, or Curry - so it's impossible that Pippen is top 30 today..

But unfortunately, new fans must do on-paper evaluations of older players, and Pippen's 6 rings simply stand out over the zero rings of Ewing or Giannis... This proves that Pippen is mis-ranked - the winning spotlight inflates him without the backing of actual performance.. He never played anywhere nearly as good as Giannis, Ewing, Kawhi, Harden or tons of guys that he's ranked ahead of.

[HoopsNY]

Scottie through Jan 30th 96( 42 games) was doing 22/7/6, 50% from the field, 44% from 3. He ended up doing 19/6/5 46%/37%. There was a second half drop off precipitated by nagging injuries. If he was healthy enough in the playoffs as he was in the first half of the year the Bulls would have probably swept the playoffs.

22/7/6 on 48-50% was his standard, with similar numbers on poor efficiency in the playoffs, even when healthy. We saw that in 1994 and 1995. How does that override what Ewing did, leading his team to a better record, or what guys like Robinson did, which included actually winning an MVP?

If Pippen was clearly the better player like 97 bulls is claiming, then Chicago had a better 1-2 punch in Pippen/Grant over Ewing/Starks. Yet somehow Chicago lost?

[HoopsNY]

quick question to end your agenda and ish career

which #2 option would you trade scottie for? of all the teams you played who are you trading pippen for?

in 97 you trading pip for hornacek?
94 you trading pip for starks?
92 you trading pip for teryr porter?

you get the message baby girrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl

None. He's a disingenuous fan. At best he might say Kemp or Penny, but that's a stretch because 1991-93 Pippen was better than those guys.

[And1AllDay]

None. He's a disingenuous fan. At best he might say Kemp or Penny, but that's a stretch because 1991-93 Pippen was better than those guys.

penny on a 1 yr rental maybe but pippens girth for 8 years of service is unbeatable 91 to 98

kemp is a joke i hope

[Phoenix]

Pippen being pushed for MVP overrides David Robinson actually winning an MVP award? I'm not saying you're saying this, but 97 bulls clearly is making the case that Pippen > Robinson between 1994-96. I can't really fathom that, lol.

Ah yeah there's nothing in my post that even remotely infers I'm talking about David Robinson, or anyone else really. Frankly the MVP topic is whatever, I do know that the term 'best non-center' was thrown around alot in reference to Scottie in that 94-95 period.

[HoopsNY]

penny on a 1 yr rental maybe but pippens girth for 8 years of service is unbeatable 91 to 98

kemp is a joke i hope

You had to watch Kemp in the playoffs from '95-'97. The impact he brought against the likes of Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, and Rodman down low can't be ignored. Kemp was legit. But I still wouldn't take Kemp then as opposed to Pippen from 1991-94, per say.