Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shit?

[Axe]

I'm certain that op envies your username, op.

[RRR3]

Reading this thread was sad. Like watching one adult (tonztoz) try to reason with a group of toddlers.

[SATAN]

Hospitals aren't overflowing lol

That's blatant blatant propaganda trying to villanize the people that chose to no get the vaccine, that's all the media have been doing this past month is making the unvaccinated look like the worst people on the planet

You literally are though.

[ZenMaster]

Why don't you go to your local hospital and see for yourself. Don't you know anyone who works in healthcare?

Why do you think dozens of doctors walked out in Florida protesting unvaccinated patients?

These antivax nuts talk about freedom. Let me clue you in on something. You aren't free in your own car. You need a license, insurance and you have to wear your seat belt or get a ticket.

Seat belts didn't exist in cars originally. When they were invented and their benefits became apparent people resisted them, complaining about their freedom just like anti vax nuts now. So they became mandatory.

The vaccine will become mandatory for most people in the workforce soon enough.

Walked out, as in they walked out of the hospital because they were on a break or off work?

[tontoz]

You are missing the point of my entire thread. These vaccines don't work. When they have the effectiveness of the mumps, measles, chicken pox, tetanus vaccines then get back to me. You are gloating over people forced to get a vaccine that has proven not to work so far.

Proven not to work because you say so? They have absolutely proven to reduce the severity and transmissibility of covid. The data is overwhelming but complete immunity isn't going to happen for a virus that mutates.

A seat belt doesn't give complete protection in car accidents. You can still get hurt or even killed in a car crash if you are wearing a seat belt. Does that mean they don't work?

[n00bie]

Things have been opening up and people moving around since March and April when a much lower percentage of people where vaccinated, yet more people are dying now than then.

You are just as ignorant as the people in this thread who are claiming the virus isn't as dangerous. Y'alls answers are proving the point of my thread topic. We apparently must feel the need to buy into one camp or the other.

I'm sorry, whether these vaccines are useless against the new varients or they never worked to begin with the facts are indisputable. Just as many or more people are dying now with the vaccine than before without it.

I've only been following daily stats in Ontario, since I live there.

People here that are double dosed make up around 70%. So around 30% of people here are unvaccinated or single dosed. Out of our daily cases, 80% of them come from the 30% unvaccinated / single dosed.

Ratio is around the same for people in icu or hospitalized.

The fact is that you have the minority of the population taking up most of the cases and hospitalizations.

I still don't believe in mandatory vaccinations. People deserve to have a choice imo.

[Cleverness]

Reading this thread was sad. Like watching one adult (Cleverness) try to reason with a group of toddlers.

Thanks.

I'll keep trying to get through to people here. Are you still a big fan of Trump's National State of Emergency, Trump's Social Distancing Guidelines, Trump's Mask Urgency, Trump's Travel Bans, The Trump Vaccine, etc? I know you've been a big fan of Trump's plan to pull out of Afghanistan, which Biden has executed, but are you still a big fan of Trump's War on Covid-19?

Interesting assumptions there.

How many infections did school closures prevent from March 2020 to June 2021?

How many infections have masks prevented so far, or through June 2021?

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-worl...at-age-30.html

Every time I see that story posted... I'm going to post a story of somebody who has died after taking the vaccine.

https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/ut...kassidi-kurill

SALT LAKE CITY (KUTV) - During a KUTV investigation into COVID-19 vaccine side effects and where to report them, we found four reported deaths, filed by Utah families and their caregivers to the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Reporting System.

One case stood out, a 39-year-old single mom from Ogden who died four days after her second dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. Her family, who is now waiting on an autopsy, held a celebration of life for her this past weekend.

Kassidi Kurill by all accounts was healthy, happy and “had more energy” than just about anyone else around her. She had no known health problems or pre-existing conditions.

[tontoz]

Every time I see that story posted... I'm going to post a story of somebody who has died after taking the vaccine.

https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/ut...kassidi-kurill

. Investigation finds 'no deaths' in Utah caused by COVID-19 vaccines

SALT LAKE CITY (KUTV) — Utah's Office of the Medical Examiner issued a statement Thursday stating that no deaths in Utah have been caused by COVID-19 vaccines to date. The statement was sent out by the Utah Department of Health and was a joint statement from both government entities.

The OME said it has completed investigations into reported deaths where those who died had recently received the COVID-19 vaccine. Legally the office is required to keep details of these investigations confidential unless the late person's family provides permission for the office to discuss the findings publicly. The statement says:

The OME has determined there have been NO DEATHS caused by the COVID-19 vaccines to date in Utah. The OME is committed to investigating any deaths that fall under its jurisdiction where decedents had recently received the COVID-19 vaccine.

https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/in...id-19-vaccines

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/in...id-19-vaccines

Jeez... I wonder how she died then.... and the other three people for that matter.

I guess we can chalk that one up as another coincidence.



But can't chalk this one up as a coincidence:

New Zealand has reported what it believes to be its first death linked to the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine.

An independent vaccine safety monitoring board said the woman's death was "probably" due to myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle.

It also noted there were other medical issues which could have "influenced the outcome following vaccination".

European regulators say myocarditis is a "very rare" side effect and that the vaccine's benefits outweigh the risks.

The official cause of death has not yet been determined.

However, the Covid-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board said the myocarditis was "probably due to vaccination".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58380867

[Doomsday Dallas]

2020: your neighbor dies in a house fire = covid death
2021: you die 30 min after the vaccine = pre-existing conditions

[Cleverness]

2020: your neighbor dies in a house fire = covid death
2021: you die 30 min after the vaccine = pre-existing conditions

That's why I continue to educate people that the median age of death with Covid-19 is above average life expectancy.

16 million people die of infectious diseases every year, many of whom are children. millions of children dying of starvation/malnutrition all the time. nobody ever gave a ****.

If you're just trying to get the point across, it would be easier to go by the CDC's latest estimate

99.999% survival rate in people 0-17

99.96% survival rate in people under 49

99.94% survival rate in people 18-49 years old

Not sure I agree with the CDC that only 1 in 1.3 Covid-19 deaths were reported, though as we've seen, labeling deaths w/ Covid can be tricky when almost all of the people dying were also dying of other causes.

[8Ball]

Reading this thread was sad. Like watching one adult (tonztoz) try to reason with a group of toddlers.

Yeah. Manny is such a dumb **** its insane.


They built universities so that kids like him don't have to stay uneducated and stupid their wholes lives.

[8Ball]

Look at these graphs and tell me vaccines "ain't doing shit". You guys are so wilfully ignorant.








Oh look, vaccines work!

[Manny98]

I don't give a **** if they work or not

I am not getting vaccinated for something that I am already immune from.

Even if I wasn't immune I am still not getting vaccinated, **** that shit